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On the lunacy of prayer
#21
RE: On the lunacy of prayer
(October 8, 2021 at 12:45 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: I get the idea of prayer being bullshit from an atheist perspective but I do not really understand the negative emotional response to other people praying or even prayer requests.

First off, I do not know any religious person who thinks prayer is a substitute for initiative. Religious people pray for guidance before deciding what to do. They request blessing for actions they commit to taking. And they ask for help after they've done all they can, as in "Its in Gods hands now."  Even from a secular perspective, these are just meditation, motivation, and hoping for the best. So what's the problem besides offending antitheist sensibilities? Or maybe the mockery makes some people feel superior.

I see nothing wrong with taking less than 2 minutes of hedging your bets when you are already open to the idea that the universe is richer than it often appears to be.

Apparently you've never been deemed 'broken' by christians and told they'll pray for you.
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#22
RE: On the lunacy of prayer
(October 9, 2021 at 6:37 am)brewer Wrote:
(October 8, 2021 at 12:45 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: I get the idea of prayer being bullshit from an atheist perspective but I do not really understand the negative emotional response to other people praying or even prayer requests.

First off, I do not know any religious person who thinks prayer is a substitute for initiative. Religious people pray for guidance before deciding what to do. They request blessing for actions they commit to taking. And they ask for help after they've done all they can, as in "Its in Gods hands now."  Even from a secular perspective, these are just meditation, motivation, and hoping for the best. So what's the problem besides offending antitheist sensibilities? Or maybe the mockery makes some people feel superior.

I see nothing wrong with taking less than 2 minutes of hedging your bets when you are already open to the idea that the universe is richer than it often appears to be.

Apparently you've never been deemed 'broken' by christians and been told they'll pray for you.
Sounds like a nightmare.
"Imagination, life is your creation"
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#23
RE: On the lunacy of prayer
(October 8, 2021 at 12:45 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: I get the idea of prayer being bullshit from an atheist perspective but I do not really understand the negative emotional response to other people praying or even prayer requests.

First off, I do not know any religious person who thinks prayer is a substitute for initiative. Religious people pray for guidance before deciding what to do. They request blessing for actions they commit to taking. And they ask for help after they've done all they can, as in "Its in Gods hands now."  Even from a secular perspective, these are just meditation, motivation, and hoping for the best. So what's the problem besides offending antitheist sensibilities? Or maybe the mockery makes some people feel superior.

I see nothing wrong with taking less than 2 minutes of hedging your bets when you are already open to the idea that the universe is richer than it often appears to be.

Yeah, imma go with the ‘mocking makes me feel superior’ thing.

Boru
‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson
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#24
RE: On the lunacy of prayer
(October 9, 2021 at 6:52 am)Ahriman Wrote:
(October 9, 2021 at 6:37 am)brewer Wrote: Apparently you've never been deemed 'broken' by christians and been told they'll pray for you.
Sounds like a nightmare.

Nope, just irritating.
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#25
RE: On the lunacy of prayer
(October 9, 2021 at 6:58 am)brewer Wrote:
(October 9, 2021 at 6:52 am)Ahriman Wrote: Sounds like a nightmare.

Nope, just irritating.
How often does that even happen?
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#26
RE: On the lunacy of prayer
(October 9, 2021 at 7:01 am)Ahriman Wrote:
(October 9, 2021 at 6:58 am)brewer Wrote: Nope, just irritating.
How often does that even happen?

Not much any more, couple of times a year.
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#27
RE: On the lunacy of prayer
(October 9, 2021 at 7:03 am)brewer Wrote:
(October 9, 2021 at 7:01 am)Ahriman Wrote: How often does that even happen?

Not much any more, couple of times a year.
Well it doesn't sound that bad. Although they shouldn't be using their religion as a reason to patronize you.
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#28
RE: On the lunacy of prayer
(October 9, 2021 at 1:25 am)AFTT47 Wrote:
(October 7, 2021 at 11:03 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: This pathetic attempt at humor is becoming spammy...think about it before posting it again.

Give me a fucking break.

I'm not Brian37s biggest fan but this is just bullying. If you don't want him on the forum anymore, why don't you just come out and say so?

I think we all know this forum is in decline. Much of that is because of people's misguided attraction to social media. You might want to rethink alienating those who chose to hang around here unless you want to hasten the death of Atheist Forums.

Thank you for your input. It wasn't presented as a mod note or an official warning. It was a suggestion. Others very possibly wouldn't have been given that much slack.
  
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#29
RE: On the lunacy of prayer
(October 9, 2021 at 1:25 am)AFTT47 Wrote:
(October 7, 2021 at 11:03 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: This pathetic attempt at humor is becoming spammy...think about it before posting it again.

Give me a fucking break.

I'm not Brian37s biggest fan but this is just bullying. If you don't want him on the forum anymore, why don't you just come out and say so?

I think we all know this forum is in decline. Much of that is because of people's misguided attraction to social media. You might want to rethink alienating those who chose to hang around here unless you want to hasten the death of Atheist Forums.

I don’t think it qualifies as bullying at all. In fact, it’s an attempt to keep him ON the forum. Accumulated warnings for spamming could get him ejected permanently. Nobody wants that.

Boru
‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson
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#30
RE: On the lunacy of prayer
(October 9, 2021 at 7:10 am)Ahriman Wrote:
(October 9, 2021 at 7:03 am)brewer Wrote: Not much any more, couple of times a year.
Well it doesn't sound that bad. Although they shouldn't be using their religion as a reason to patronize you.

That is their only reason.
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