[Serious] That Trans Thread

[Angrboda]

Does anyone have any opinion about the supreme court nominee declining to define the word woman because she's not a biologist?

That's what arguments are for.  It's no more the place of a supreme court justice, or any justice for that matter, to stake out a position on a controversial subject ahead of the matter coming before them.  From what I recall other judges have declined to state how they would rule on abortion or religious freedom.  I see this as no different.  My only problem with it is that framing her deferral as she did was not particularly artful given how well she addressed other controversial subjects.

I'd like to add to my previous comment because it appears that I was misinformed. Jimmy Kimmel played the clip of senator Blackburn asking the justice if she could provide a definition of the word woman and there's a crucial part of that exchange which the right wing jerkoffs have been omitting. Justice Brown qualified her "no" by adding that she couldn't do so, "in this context." That's a very different statement than what the right has been representing her as saying, where they imply that she couldn't provide a definition, period. That's false and a misrepresentation of Jackson's answer. (Big shock that the right is telling falsehoods.) The context in this case is the official duties of a U.S. justice and what Ketanji Brown Jackson's views on that subject are, and how she would behave as a justice. In that context, no she cannot give a definition; that role belongs to experts and witnesses, not the justice. Is anybody surprised that this little nuance has been omitted from right-wing talk about this?

[Rev. Rye]

‘Father Ted’ musical axed following Graham Linehan’s controversial views

Plans for Pope Ted, the musical based on ’90s sitcom Father Ted have reportedly been axed following continued clashes between the programme’s creator, Graham Linehan, and trans-rights activists.

https://www.nme.com/news/tv/father-ted-m...ws-3190721

It's a testament to how much of a gobshite Graham Linehan has turned out to be that I can read those words and think only "good." It's honestly a bit tragic: he starts off creating three of the greatest sitcoms ever, but when he makes a tasteless episode of The IT Crowd, he doesn't just double down. In what may or may not be an attempt to educate himself, he listens to the wrong fucking people, and ends up sacrificing all the good will built up over a quarter century, alienating himself from many of the comedians who made their names working with him and even his wife, and I remember reading somewhere that he'd routinely spend 16 hours a day harassing trans folk on Twitter, so it basically took over all his waking hours. And I think I can say with zero fear of contradiction that Gobshite Glinner has nobody to blame for this but himself.

[JairCrawford]

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world...58272.html

Is anybody else seriously alarmed by this? I find this to be extremely concerning. I posted here because though this is an issue effecting LGBTQ, it seems that these terror incidents are happening against trans people at the highest rate.

[Rev. Rye]

The fact that these Republican lawmakers who call anyone who mentions anything about LGBTQ culture to kids (or those okay with it) groomers are the same people who’ve fought tooth and nail to fight bans on child marriage makes my blood boil.




And yes, for the record, there are a total of six states with a complete ban on child marriages (at least one party under 18), the oldest such law on the books is from 2018 (younger than the iPad I’m typing this post on), even in states with tough but non-comprehensive laws are still finding ways to bring it back, and it’s literally ALWAYS the Republicans who defend them.

And, worth noting, in Tennessee, they passed a law banning under-17s from marrying in 2018, but a bill was recently introduced, largely for the purposes of creating a new way to ban gay marriage without actually banning gay marriage, that notably lacked a minimum age requirement. Of course, the bill is currently on hold and they recently had to amend it to state that both partners had to be 18 due to the lack of a minimum age making the bill go viral, but still, it was introduced and was being debated in the Tennessee legislature THIS MONTH.

[JairCrawford]

Yeah I heard about that idiocy in the Tennessee state legislature as well… all happening while at the same time TN Senator Marsha Blackburn was somehow trying to appear so very concerned about the children at the hearings for soon to be Justice Brown Jackson.

It’s the very definition of projection.

[The Architect Of Fate]

The fact that these Republican lawmakers who call anyone who mentions anything about LGBTQ culture to kids (or those okay with it) groomers are the same people who’ve fought tooth and nail to fight bans on child marriage makes my blood boil.




And yes, for the record, there are a total of six states with a complete ban on child marriages (at least one party under 18), the oldest such law on the books is from 2018 (younger than the iPad I’m typing this post on), even in states with tough but non-comprehensive laws are still finding ways to bring it back, and it’s literally ALWAYS the Republicans who defend them.

And, worth noting, in Tennessee, they passed a law banning under-17s from marrying in 2018, but a bill was recently introduced, largely for the purposes of creating a new way to ban gay marriage without actually banning gay marriage, that notably lacked a minimum age requirement. Of course, the bill is currently on hold and they recently had to amend it to state that both partners had to be 18 due to the lack of a minimum age making the bill go viral,  but still, it was introduced and was being debated in the Tennessee legislature THIS MONTH.

Not to mention the same people defend these two


A man who dates underaged girls 


And the guy who wants to fuck his own daughter

[Jehanne]

The conservative Republicans are idiots:

Wikipedia -- Streisand effect

[JairCrawford]

I’m concerned at the lack of pushback to this extremist right wing rhetoric. I mean sure, we have Disney but no one else has made a peep and even Disney isn’t doubling down in a loud or outspoken manner. Is everybody just waiting for pride month in June? Or are companies genuinely scared of profit losses? And worse, are more liberal representatives afraid of losses in the midterms if they speak on this too much? I would like to think neither of these things are the case but… it really feels like only one side is making any noise right now. I don’t like it.

[Jehanne]

I’m concerned at the lack of pushback to this extremist right wing rhetoric. I mean sure, we have Disney but no one else has made a peep and even Disney isn’t doubling down in a loud or outspoken manner. Is everybody just waiting for pride month in June? Or are companies genuinely scared of profit losses? And worse, are more liberal representatives afraid of losses in the midterms if they speak on this too much? I would like to think neither of these things are the case but… it really feels like only one side is making any noise right now. I don’t like it.

My concern is that it is a slippery slope.  "Don't say Gay/Trans" will someday morph into banning all transgenders from coming within 1,000 feet of any elementary school.  Here's Me, by the way:



I need to get my hair dyed.  But, my major concern is that individuals like me will, if the far right has their way, be lumped with sex offenders and the like all in the name of "protecting" K-3 students.  By the way, when I show-up to pickup my 5th grader from her school, dozens of K-3 children get a real-life lesson in transgenderism "live and in full color".  So far, no adult or parent has said anything to me, although, I have gotten a few nasty comments from a few of my daughter's classmates, both girls and boys, which I have ignored.

[JairCrawford]

I’m concerned at the lack of pushback to this extremist right wing rhetoric. I mean sure, we have Disney but no one else has made a peep and even Disney isn’t doubling down in a loud or outspoken manner. Is everybody just waiting for pride month in June? Or are companies genuinely scared of profit losses? And worse, are more liberal representatives afraid of losses in the midterms if they speak on this too much? I would like to think neither of these things are the case but… it really feels like only one side is making any noise right now. I don’t like it.

My concern is that it is a slippery slope.  "Don't say Gay/Trans" will someday morph into banning all transgenders from coming within 1,000 feet of any elementary school.  Here's Me, by the way:



I need to get my hair dyed.  But, my major concern is that individuals like me will, if the far right has their way, be lumped with sex offenders and the like all in the name of "protecting" K-3 students.  By the way, when I show-up to pickup my 5th grader from her school, dozens of K-3 children get a real-life lesson in transgenderism "live and in full color".  So far, no adult or parent has said anything to me, although, I have gotten a few nasty comments from a few of my daughter's classmates, both girls and boys, which I have ignored.

The combination of a lack of proper defense of the issue from some liberals, along with recent opinion polls concerns me. If the polls are to be taken seriously it seems like trans issues have not quite caught up to gay rights issues in the mainstream. I’m concerned that the far right is deliberately trying to create a wedge issue out of this with knowledge of said polling data. Im also concerned that the same data could explain some of the lack of liberal backlash.