[Serious] That Trans Thread

[Irreligious Atheist]

Trans women in bio female sports is a losing issue for the activists. All of your arguments on the matter have failed, because science is...

No issues with transmen competing with biological men?

Why would there be? Trans men are at a disadvantage, so that's not unfair for the people they are competing against. I'm fine with cis women competing with men too if the cis women are good enough.

[Rev. Rye]

So, what are the objections you have to this meta-study (Vaush-approved, mind you) that failed to find much of a material difference between trans female athletes and cis female athletes once the effects of hormones are factored in?

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5357259/

[Irreligious Atheist]

So, what are the objections you have to this meta-study (Vaush-approved, mind you) that failed to find much of a material difference between trans female athletes and cis female athletes once the effects of hormones are factored in?

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5357259/

It's BS, and I disagree with Vaush on most things, so it doesn't mean anything to me that he approved it. Lung capacity, height, bone structure, hand size, and on and on. Those who try to make the argument that hormone levels are all that matter are fooling themselves.

[The Architect Of Fate]

So, what are the objections you have to this meta-study (Vaush-approved, mind you) that failed to find much of a material difference between trans female athletes and cis female athletes once the effects of hormones are factored in?

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5357259/

The fact of the matter is the question remains unanswered and scientists will tell you so. Overconfident knobs meanwhile will proclaim science has shown all arguments have failed, And the only reason thus far the Trans sports issue has been rough on activists is because they are up against a massive reich wing propaganda that has been highly effective at pretty much distorting the issues around people.

[The Architect Of Fate]

It's BS, and I disagree with Vaush on most things, so it doesn't mean anything to me that he approved it. Lung capacity, height, bone structure, hand size, and on and on. Those who try to make the argument that hormone levels are all that matter are fooling themselves.

Says the actual fool 

[The Architect Of Fate]

So, what are the objections you have to this meta-study (Vaush-approved, mind you) that failed to find much of a material difference between trans female athletes and cis female athletes once the effects of hormones are factored in?

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5357259/

Yup IA response 

I don't  like with the answer of an actual scientific paper therefore it's wrong 

[Irreligious Atheist]

It's BS, and I disagree with Vaush on most things, so it doesn't mean anything to me that he approved it. Lung capacity, height, bone structure, hand size, and on and on. Those who try to make the argument that hormone levels are all that matter are fooling themselves.

Says the actual fool 

There's a serious tag on the thread. Keep it PG, kids, before the discussion gets shut down by a mod with an itchy finger.

[Irreligious Atheist]

So, what are the objections you have to this meta-study (Vaush-approved, mind you) that failed to find much of a material difference between trans female athletes and cis female athletes once the effects of hormones are factored in?

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5357259/

Yup IA response 

I don't  like with the answer of an actual scientific paper therefore it's wrong 

Yes, just like the peer reviewed scientific paper Rye provided to me saying vaccination is better than natural immunity, which Rye had to retract shortly thereafter when that obviously wrong and politically motivated conclusion was struck down by reality and better studies. It has been known for decades that infection generally provides better protection than vaccination. Was I being unscientific then for rejecting Rye's "peer reviewed scientific study" that was clearly very suspect? Nope. I saw through it, and you just said yourself that the issue of trans women in sports has not been scientifically resolved, yet you are now siding with Rye's provided study which says there is no significant advantage? Seems to me that you don't even know what your own position is on the subject. Do you claim that there is no real advantage, or do you claim that the issue has not yet been resolved by science? Make up your mind and quit being wishy washy.

[The Architect Of Fate]

1. Your recollection of the vaccine discussion is skewed at best 

2. Respecting an actual research paper regarding the issues versus your bullshit opinions is not claiming the issue is resolved 

Thank you for showing  again why no one on this forum takes you seriously 

[The Architect Of Fate]

Says the actual fool 

There's a serious tag on the thread. Keep it PG, kids, before the discussion gets shut down by a mod with an itchy finger.

Lol no