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What is the number?
#21
RE: What is the number?
Leaving aside the very real and important differences between the 2020 civil rights protests and the January insurrection, let’s look at the numbers. It’s all but impossible to get hard numbers on the participants in each, but we can make some not unreasonable guesses.

A little more than 700 people have been charged in the insurrection. Let’s estimate that 2000 people participated. Estimates for participation in the civil rights protests range from 15-26 million. I’m gonna split the difference and round down…call it 20 million people.

1 person was killed in the insurrection and an estimated 20 in the protests. This means that the protestors in 2020 would had to have killed 10 000 people to equal the proportionate loss of life in the insurrection. Looked at another way, if the protests were on the same scale as the insurrection, the odds would have been 10 000 to 1 against anyone dying. Looked at yet another way, the insurrection was 10 000 times more deadly than the protests.

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#22
RE: What is the number?
Seems like we might have to add some deaths to the insurrection's column in the floyd protests, what with accelerationists pleading guilty to firing on law enforcement in the hopes to start rahowa.

Threads boring, uppity minorities and their allies aren't a greater threat to these united states than domestic terrorism, and the death toll between the two isn't even close to comparable.
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#23
RE: What is the number?
(December 15, 2021 at 10:13 am)onlinebiker Wrote: How many people were killed because of the BLM protests in 2020?

How many were killed due right wing riots in DC?

Why do you think the two are comparable?
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#24
RE: What is the number?
OLB "They do it too"

No you don't understand OLB. Blacks are not being unrestful because they lost a fair election, they are being unrestful because they are tired of being kicked in the nuts. 

White people on the other hand, they are buying bullshit conspiracies from a con artist because they fear losing their social pecking order.
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#25
RE: What is the number?
(December 15, 2021 at 9:02 pm)Brian37 Wrote: OLB "They do it too"

No you don't understand OLB. Blacks are not being unrestful because they lost a fair election, they are being unrestful because they are tired of being kicked in the nuts. 

White people on the other hand, they are buying bullshit conspiracies from a con artist because they fear losing their social pecking order.

I get the feeling that getting kicked in the nuts would be an improvement over the sort of shit that cops actually do to them. That said, I've argued this point with Biker, and I've even pointed out that what happened in Portland is very much an outlider and BLM protests have, by and large, been peaceful by a stupefyingly large margin. And he's repeatedly demonstrated he either is too obtuse for that information to penetrate his thick skull or too wedded to the "both sides are identically bad" narrative (which may have made sense about 25 years ago, but is preposterously absurd in 2021) to care. Probably both.
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#26
RE: What is the number?
(December 15, 2021 at 7:56 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote:
(December 15, 2021 at 10:13 am)onlinebiker Wrote: How many people were killed because of the BLM protests in 2020?

How many were killed due right wing riots in DC?

Why do you think the two are comparable?

Because the angry guy yelling in his car parked at the Chik'fila made very compelling arguments on the facebook video he saw.
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#27
RE: What is the number?
(December 16, 2021 at 12:55 am)Nay_Sayer Wrote:
(December 15, 2021 at 7:56 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: Why do you think the two are comparable?

Because the angry guy yelling in his car parked at the Chik'fila made very compelling arguments on the facebook video he saw.

That sounds about white.
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#28
RE: What is the number?
A more fitting comparison is between the investigation into Benghazi and that into the events of January 6. A recent opinion article explored that.

Quote:The differing responses to the two tragedies show the rank hypocrisy in the Republican Party and the sickness that has taken hold of it.

Lawmakers launched eight congressional investigations of Benghazi over four years, culminating in a two-year, $7 million select-committee extravaganza led by Gowdy (R-S.C.), now out of Congress. Theirs was an unrelenting (and unsuccessful) campaign to prove a preconceived premise that then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton had arranged for the U.S. military to “stand down” instead of coming to the aid of Ambassador J. Christopher Stevens and the other three victims.



They never showed that Clinton had anything to do with a military response, that there was a “stand down” order, that the military could have done anything in time to stop the tragic outcome or that politics influenced the Obama administration’s actions.

By contrast, we know beyond all doubt that Trump on Jan. 6 refused to stop his own supporters’ bloody rampage — one he incited. Yet GOP lawmakers, after reacting in initial horror to Trump’s actions, now defend them absolutely and punish heretical Republicans who refuse to join the whitewash.

The hypocrisy doesn’t end there. The No. 1 conclusion of Gowdy’s Benghazi report: “The First Victim of War is Truth.” Investigators were outraged the Obama administration initially said the Benghazi attack began as a protest, which turned out to be false. “The truth is always important. It is especially so during times when we as a nation must face a crisis — and mourn one — together and to learn from it,” Reps. Jim Jordan (Ohio) and Mike Pompeo (Kan.), later Trump’s secretary of state, wrote in an addendum. “Instead of sharing that truth, the administration concealed it. And in doing so it misled the American people for political gain.”

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#29
RE: What is the number?
Some of them are nuts, like our buddy OLB - they believe that shit. Probably goes some way to exlaining why they act the way they do. They think this is how it's done, this is how the other guys play. That they're doing coups to us, so we have to coup their coup.

Wish it were true, but alas...
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#30
RE: What is the number?
How many people died in the communist riots against Nazi Germany?

How many people died trying to get civil rights in Mississippi?

How many people died fighting the expansion of the US into native lands?

The value of the cause can be determined by whether it is worth dying for. Trying to overthrow an election is treason. Trying to get civil justice is not.
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