Buy the new US military rifle before the troops get them

[Jehanne]

$8,000 for a gun??  One must wonder  (without looking at gross search results) what the ammo costs?

OLB states $3.00 a round.

Round == bullet. Makes sense now.

[onlinebiker]

$8,000 for a gun??  $3 per bullet?  (Yes, reread the OP.)  Unbelievable!!

Want a real eye opener???

Go look at some Holland and Holland double barrel shotguns. You can easily spend $50,000. Pretty guns - but jaysus.......



https://stevebarnettfineguns.com/holland...s-for-sale

[popeyespappy]

Don't forget to add another $400 since it has both a 13" barrel and a suppressor so you are going to need 2 NFA stamps to buy one.

It also looks more like the new military rifle's big brother than just a semiauto version. The military version is chambered in 6.8 SPC. This one in .277 Fury and convertible to 7.62x51 or 6.5 Creedmore with a barrel swap is probably bigger than the what the military is getting. Think AR-15 vs AR-10. If true this could also account for the 8.4 lb base weight which is going to make grunts everywhere cry real tears.

[Anomalocaris]

$8,000 for a gun??  $3 per bullet?  (Yes, reread the OP.)  Unbelievable!!

This is a totally new gun, using proprietary ammunition of a wholly new caliber.    It’s only draw is the military promise to eventually purchase it in large numbers.

right now it is certainly new and tara,  and cool in some people’s eyes.   later it will be common place. 

The urge to get a new toy first before everyone else is not compatible with sound financial management.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

I can’t think of anyone I hate badly enough to shoot with an $8000 gun.

Boru

[Jehanne]

$8,000 for a gun??  $3 per bullet?  (Yes, reread the OP.)  Unbelievable!!

This is a totally new gun, using proprietary ammunition of a wholly new caliber.    It’s only draw is the military promise to eventually purchase it in large numbers.

right now it is certainly new and tara,  and cool in some people’s eyes.   later it will be common place. 

The urge to get a new toy first before everyone else is not compatible with sound financial management.

In the 90s there was this economist (Summers, I believe) who calculated, in US dollars, the value of individual human beings around the World. (A person from Africa was, in his calculus, worth a few hundred bucks.) Not welcome in Clinton's administration, he was welcome to serve in Bush's cabinet. Question is at $300/bullet has war become a negative return value?

[Anomalocaris]

I can’t think of anyone I hate badly enough to shoot with an $8000 gun.

Boru

I can think of a few…..

[Anomalocaris]

In iraq and Afghanistan,  it has been estimated the US forces fired approximately 300,000 bullets for each person it hit.    At this rate, if the US were to fight a land war in China using $3 bullets, it would require 1,500 years’ worth of total current annual defense spending just to procure the necessary bullets!


To put it another way, at $3 per bullet and 300,000 bullets per hit, the three billion dollars of US aid to Ukraine so far will not pay for enough bullets to inflict the casualties the Ukrainians alledgedly inflicted on the Russians even if it all went to paying for bullets.

[Peebothuhlu]

At work.

Not my country, not my space/area.

My thoughts/reactions to previous comments are kind of clouded by my Granfather's experiance/treatment (Probably not the right words) in WW II.

He was of the right stuff to be 'Professional Army' here in Aus in the late 1930's.

This had him training up recruits as out guys were moved to help Queen and country in North Africa.

Needless to say. The kick off in the Pacific seems to have been a rather 'Brown pants' day for folks here at the time.

The short end of the tale hence is my Grandfather ending up in New Guinea with fek all much of anything (Effectivly but I paraphrase) being asked to do the heroic impossible.

To read people arguing about the 'Price' of something that would seem fundamental to a Soldier's life?

Harkens back to Astronaut John Glenn's comment of "As I hurtled through space... my thought was 'Every part of this vehicle was procured by the lowest bidder'."

I get/understand there's a 'Price' to/for everything but.... I mean really? Are we back to thinking maybe the Sten is how to equip with a weapon? "Good, cheap, simple. You can only pick two."

I hyperbole, I'm sorry in my ramblings. It's not maybe the best of times for me atm.

Cheers.

[onlinebiker]

Bear in mind - the $8k per gun $3 per bullet is the highly inflated price they will charge civilians.(the ones dumb enough to pay it..)

The actual cost to the military will probably be 1/10th of that......