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RE: All science is materialistic
December 31, 2022 at 12:02 pm
(December 31, 2022 at 11:08 am)polymath257 Wrote: And, in fact, even defining matter is tricky. Is light matter? Are neutrinos? They are certainly *physical*, but I think very few scientists would say that light is matter or material. I have even seen a "definition" of matter as that which is made up of first generation fermions (up and down quarks and electrons). ![[Image: 1529436565897814016-ftmmcbeueaevahn.jpg]](https://badinage1.files.wordpress.com/2023/01/1529436565897814016-ftmmcbeueaevahn.jpg)
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RE: All science is materialistic
December 31, 2022 at 12:23 pm
(December 31, 2022 at 12:01 pm)Angrboda Wrote: (December 31, 2022 at 11:40 am)Jehanne Wrote: As you and everyone else knows, by Einstein's very famous formula,
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one has the mass–energy equivalence, and so, massless particles, such as photons, would have zero invariant mass. Materialism would certainly encompass the notion of fields (of course, the basis of QFT), where at very high energies a field would produce a particle (e.g., the Higgs boson).
Matter and mass are not equivalent terms.
Energy would be in Joules, mass would be in kilograms and '"c squared' would be meters squared divided by seconds squared.
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RE: All science is materialistic
December 31, 2022 at 1:09 pm
(December 31, 2022 at 12:23 pm)Jehanne Wrote: (December 31, 2022 at 12:01 pm)Angrboda Wrote: Matter and mass are not equivalent terms.
Energy would be in Joules, mass would be in kilograms and '"c squared' would be meters squared divided by seconds squared.
Do you have a point?
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RE: All science is materialistic
December 31, 2022 at 1:12 pm
(December 31, 2022 at 1:09 pm)Angrboda Wrote: (December 31, 2022 at 12:23 pm)Jehanne Wrote: Energy would be in Joules, mass would be in kilograms and '"c squared' would be meters squared divided by seconds squared.
Do you have a point?
No.
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RE: All science is materialistic
December 31, 2022 at 3:41 pm
(December 31, 2022 at 1:12 pm)Jehanne Wrote: (December 31, 2022 at 1:09 pm)Angrboda Wrote: Do you have a point?
No.
Soo... you're intimating that you're a "Well rounded individual" ? 
I'll... see my self out...
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RE: All science is materialistic
December 31, 2022 at 3:44 pm
(December 31, 2022 at 3:41 pm)Peebothuhlu Wrote: (December 31, 2022 at 1:12 pm)Jehanne Wrote: No.
Soo... you're intimating that you're a "Well rounded individual" ?
I'll... see my self out...
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Well played.
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RE: All science is materialistic
December 31, 2022 at 3:47 pm
(December 31, 2022 at 3:41 pm)Peebothuhlu Wrote: (December 31, 2022 at 1:12 pm)Jehanne Wrote: No.
Soo... you're intimating that you're a "Well rounded individual" ?
I'll... see my self out...
Not at work.
I'm tired of discussing things with those who, clearly, have no desire to know.
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RE: All science is materialistic
December 31, 2022 at 3:54 pm
(December 31, 2022 at 3:47 pm)Jehanne Wrote: (December 31, 2022 at 3:41 pm)Peebothuhlu Wrote: Soo... you're intimating that you're a "Well rounded individual" ?
I'll... see my self out...
Not at work.
I'm tired of discussing things with those who, clearly, have no desire to know.
Are you including me in that group?
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RE: All science is materialistic
December 31, 2022 at 3:54 pm
(December 31, 2022 at 3:54 pm)Angrboda Wrote: (December 31, 2022 at 3:47 pm)Jehanne Wrote: I'm tired of discussing things with those who, clearly, have no desire to know.
Are you including me in that group?
Yes.
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RE: All science is materialistic
December 31, 2022 at 4:16 pm
(December 31, 2022 at 3:54 pm)Jehanne Wrote: (December 31, 2022 at 3:54 pm)Angrboda Wrote: Are you including me in that group?
Yes.
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