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RE: Did guns or vaccines save more lives in 2021?
January 25, 2023 at 8:09 am
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RE: Did guns or vaccines save more lives in 2021?
January 25, 2023 at 8:10 am
Quote:Why would it be "falsely claimed"? It's based on an actual study. Unlike you who keep insisting without evidence that guns kill so many more people than they save that banning them is justified.
A crank study and he's right and you're wrong... 
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RE: Did guns or vaccines save more lives in 2021?
January 25, 2023 at 11:57 am
(January 25, 2023 at 7:09 am)FlatAssembler Wrote: (January 24, 2023 at 7:55 pm)brewer Wrote: ![[Image: 28770209-syringe-with-green-liquid-in-re...r-drug.jpg]](https://previews.123rf.com/images/dvarg/dvarg1405/dvarg140500622/28770209-syringe-with-green-liquid-in-revolver-killing-injection-medicine-or-drug.jpg)
What does that mean?
It's a gun-vaccine. Both saving lives in the best way.
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RE: Did guns or vaccines save more lives in 2021?
January 25, 2023 at 1:17 pm
(January 25, 2023 at 7:11 am)FlatAssembler Wrote: (January 24, 2023 at 4:43 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote: guns are only claimed falsely to save 300,000 because a large section of the people would want the idiot joy of owning a gun and don’t really care how many people a system that allow them to own it actually kills. they will claim guns save 10 trillion people a day if they think idiots like you would repeat the claim.
Why would it be "falsely claimed"? It's based on an actual study. Unlike you who keep insisting without evidence that guns kill so many more people than they save that banning them is justified.
A claim can be based on an actually study and still be wrong.
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RE: Did guns or vaccines save more lives in 2021?
January 25, 2023 at 1:29 pm
As, for example, any claims based on his study of croatian toponyms would be, according to the linguist he consulted.
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RE: Did guns or vaccines save more lives in 2021?
January 26, 2023 at 11:23 am
(January 25, 2023 at 1:17 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: (January 25, 2023 at 7:11 am)FlatAssembler Wrote: Why would it be "falsely claimed"? It's based on an actual study. Unlike you who keep insisting without evidence that guns kill so many more people than they save that banning them is justified.
A claim can be based on an actually study and still be wrong.
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Sure, but there are different levels of wrongness. Claims that aren't based on a study are way more wrong than claims that are based on a flawed study.
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RE: Did guns or vaccines save more lives in 2021?
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RE: Did guns or vaccines save more lives in 2021?
January 26, 2023 at 11:29 am
(January 26, 2023 at 11:23 am)FlatAssembler Wrote: (January 25, 2023 at 1:17 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: A claim can be based on an actually study and still be wrong.
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Sure, but there are different levels of wrongness. Claims that aren't based on a study are way more wrong than claims that are based on a flawed study.
Not necessarily. Suppose I make the claim, without a study, that trees are made of wood. Someone conducts a flawed study which concludes that trees are made of pickled beets.
Which claim is ‘way more wrong’?
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RE: Did guns or vaccines save more lives in 2021?
January 26, 2023 at 11:30 am
(January 25, 2023 at 8:10 am)Helios Wrote: Quote:Why would it be "falsely claimed"? It's based on an actual study. Unlike you who keep insisting without evidence that guns kill so many more people than they save that banning them is justified.
A crank study and he's right and you're wrong...
Gary Kleck's study is, until you point to a better study, the best data we have. And I see no reason to think that almost everybody who thinks a gun saved their life is somehow mistaken, which seems to be the only way Gary Kleck's study could be wildly wrong.
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RE: Did guns or vaccines save more lives in 2021?
January 26, 2023 at 1:48 pm
Nope, bad science is not a substitute for no science and credulity isn't an argument.
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