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The greatest discovery in my life
#21
RE: The greatest discovery in my life
(March 6, 2023 at 10:48 am)Objectivist Wrote: I'm at 37 and a half hours and still not hungry this morning.  Got a little bit of vertigo last night and a headache.  Realized I had only had a cup of coffee to drink all day and evening. It's hard to remember to drink doing this.  I drank a couple of glasses of water with a pinch of salt like he says in the video and it went away.  Feel fine this morning.  

That is not healthy. Eat something. Yes, there is bad food but that doesn't mean that you should stop eating. There are people who eat nonstop because they eat food that is insufficient in nutrients, but if you eat nutritious food you will be fine and won't get fat. For example, cook a cup of lentils and eat potatoes from the air fryer and it will feed you enough and you won't get fat.

When it comes to our ancestors, they did not have a superior cuisine. They were hungry. Most creatures are hungry most of the time. Any population that has more than enough resources will tend to grow until there is no longer any surplus; any population that has too few resources will naturally decline. This implies that populations tend to find and then oscillate around their upper limit, a number known as carrying capacity. So if you were to check in on an ancestor at random, there is a good chance you would find them wanting more food than they have.

And they also ate processed food. Have you ever wondered why people have weak jawbones especially compared to other apes? It is because Homo Erectus used fire to prepare food and thus ate food that was easily chewed and digested. So we have to process every food we eat. And that also made our intestines shorter which made us smarter because we could use more energy for the brain.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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#22
RE: The greatest discovery in my life
(March 6, 2023 at 2:50 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote:
(March 6, 2023 at 10:48 am)Objectivist Wrote: I'm at 37 and a half hours and still not hungry this morning.  Got a little bit of vertigo last night and a headache.  Realized I had only had a cup of coffee to drink all day and evening. It's hard to remember to drink doing this.  I drank a couple of glasses of water with a pinch of salt like he says in the video and it went away.  Feel fine this morning.  

That is not healthy. Eat something. Yes, there is bad food but that doesn't mean that you should stop eating. There are people who eat nonstop because they eat food that is insufficient in nutrients, but if you eat nutritious food you will be fine and won't get fat. For example, cook a cup of lentils and eat potatoes from the air fryer and it will feed you enough and you won't get fat.

When it comes to our ancestors, they did not have a superior cuisine. They were hungry. Most creatures are hungry most of the time. Any population that has more than enough resources will tend to grow until there is no longer any surplus; any population that has too few resources will naturally decline. This implies that populations tend to find and then oscillate around their upper limit, a number known as carrying capacity. So if you were to check in on an ancestor at random, there is a good chance you would find them wanting more food than they have.

And they also ate processed food. Have you ever wondered why people have weak jawbones especially compared to other apes? It is because Homo Erectus used fire to prepare food and thus ate food that was easily chewed and digested. So we have to process every food we eat. And that also made our intestines shorter which made us smarter because we could use more energy for the brain.
Says who?  Did you miss the part where this Cardiologist has 35 years of experience?  Did you miss the part where other doctors echo his findings.  Did you miss the part where he has treated thousands and thousands of patients?  Did you miss the part where he says precisely not to do what I did?  Did you miss the part where he did 5 years of research and has a mountain of data to back up his claims?  Did you miss the part where he says that this is not for everyone and that you should consult a doctor?  Did you miss the part where he eases people into this over several months?  Did you miss the part where he monitors his patients closely?  Did you even watch the video?  Did you miss the part where he references multiple studies on both animals and humans.  Good grief.  I hardly think going three days without eating is going to kill me.  It certainly can't be as bad as what I've been doing for 30 years that has led to me being grossly overweight and unhealthy.  I thought that it would go without saying that you should do your own research, and use your own judgment and by all means consult a doctor if you feel inclined to do so.  

I came here to pass along something that has had a profound impact on my life.  Now I'm sorry I did.  I'm out.  May you have a long and happy life.  Goodbye.
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#23
RE: The greatest discovery in my life
So a large mountain of fallacies. To defend quack alternative medicine.   Hehe
"Change was inevitable"


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#24
RE: The greatest discovery in my life
(March 6, 2023 at 2:50 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote:
(March 6, 2023 at 10:48 am)Objectivist Wrote: I'm at 37 and a half hours and still not hungry this morning.  Got a little bit of vertigo last night and a headache.  Realized I had only had a cup of coffee to drink all day and evening. It's hard to remember to drink doing this.  I drank a couple of glasses of water with a pinch of salt like he says in the video and it went away.  Feel fine this morning.  

That is not healthy. Eat something. Yes, there is bad food but that doesn't mean that you should stop eating. There are people who eat nonstop because they eat food that is insufficient in nutrients, but if you eat nutritious food you will be fine and won't get fat. For example, cook a cup of lentils and eat potatoes from the air fryer and it will feed you enough and you won't get fat.

When it comes to our ancestors, they did not have a superior cuisine. They were hungry. Most creatures are hungry most of the time. Any population that has more than enough resources will tend to grow until there is no longer any surplus; any population that has too few resources will naturally decline. This implies that populations tend to find and then oscillate around their upper limit, a number known as carrying capacity. So if you were to check in on an ancestor at random, there is a good chance you would find them wanting more food than they have.

And they also ate processed food. Have you ever wondered why people have weak jawbones especially compared to other apes? It is because Homo Erectus used fire to prepare food and thus ate food that was easily chewed and digested. So we have to process every food we eat. And that also made our intestines shorter which made us smarter because we could use more energy for the brain.
His response is fallacies all the way down  Hehe
"Change was inevitable"


Nemo sicut deus debet esse!

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 “No matter what men think, abortion is a fact of life. Women have always had them; they always have and they always will. Are they going to have good ones or bad ones? Will the good ones be reserved for the rich, while the poor women go to quacks?”
–SHIRLEY CHISHOLM


      
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#25
RE: The greatest discovery in my life
(March 6, 2023 at 6:40 pm)Helios Wrote: So a large mountain of fallacies. To defend quack alternative medicine.   Hehe

I've watched the video and to me it makes a lot of sense, and does not come across as quackery or new age at all. It has me quite excited tbh. I mean, sure I need to do my due diligence, ie other corroborating research, and I know I'm not healthy enough or prepared enough to jump straight into a long term fast, and the doctor here doesn't advise that... I'd need to get my carbs and sugar levels down first... but him recommending intermittent fasting, that's nothing new... and something I'd like to try, ie as he puts it recreating the paleolithic diet ie one or two meals a day six hours apart, ie our ancestors wouldn't snack several times a day, they'd eat when they got the chance, and sometimes have long periods of not having that chance, and that's what our bodies, in the timescale of evolution, would be most adapted to. I think that makes a lot of sense.
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RE: The greatest discovery in my life
(March 6, 2023 at 7:43 pm)emjay Wrote:
(March 6, 2023 at 6:40 pm)Helios Wrote: So a large mountain of fallacies. To defend quack alternative medicine.   Hehe

I've watched the video and to me it makes a lot of sense, and does not come across as quackery or new age at all. It has me quite excited tbh. I mean, sure I need to do my due diligence, ie other corroborating research, and I know I'm not healthy enough or prepared enough to jump straight into a long term fast, and the doctor here doesn't advise that... I'd need to get my carbs and sugar levels down first... but him recommending intermittent fasting, that's nothing new... and something I'd like to try, ie as he puts it recreating the paleolithic diet ie one or two meals a day six hours apart, ie our ancestors wouldn't snack several times a day, they'd eat when they got the chance, and sometimes have long periods of not having that chance, and that's what our bodies, in the timescale of evolution, would be most adapted to. I think that makes a lot of sense.

If it works, it’s not quackery (by definition). There’s a lot of data supporting the health benefits of intermittent fasting.

Boru
‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson
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#27
RE: The greatest discovery in my life
(March 6, 2023 at 9:16 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(March 6, 2023 at 7:43 pm)emjay Wrote: I've watched the video and to me it makes a lot of sense, and does not come across as quackery or new age at all. It has me quite excited tbh. I mean, sure I need to do my due diligence, ie other corroborating research, and I know I'm not healthy enough or prepared enough to jump straight into a long term fast, and the doctor here doesn't advise that... I'd need to get my carbs and sugar levels down first... but him recommending intermittent fasting, that's nothing new... and something I'd like to try, ie as he puts it recreating the paleolithic diet ie one or two meals a day six hours apart, ie our ancestors wouldn't snack several times a day, they'd eat when they got the chance, and sometimes have long periods of not having that chance, and that's what our bodies, in the timescale of evolution, would be most adapted to. I think that makes a lot of sense.

If it works, it’s not quackery (by definition). There’s a lot of data supporting the health benefits of intermittent fasting.

Boru

The app I use to log my foods, MyfitnessPal, recently recommended it to me too, on the sort of 'try it and see if it's right for you' kind of basis, very casual, so that suggested there's nothing to worry about there. I didn't know anything about it at the time so I didn't take it up but it's nice to see a rationale for it now. And likewise, low carb, let's say less intuitive kinds of diets, are the sorts of things my sister tries to get me into, and there's a lot of science behind it... and I did try it for a while... but I always just end up gravitating back towards the intuitive. But it would be nice to try something else again, and intermmitant fasting doesn't sound that hard, especially since I can get behind a lot of what he says and see that most of my eating is by habit, custom, or in the case of sugar, addiction. Ie I don't need to eat as often as I do.
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#28
RE: The greatest discovery in my life
All quackery sounds convincing and some of it even has a grain of truth. But no it's quackery
"Change was inevitable"


Nemo sicut deus debet esse!

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 “No matter what men think, abortion is a fact of life. Women have always had them; they always have and they always will. Are they going to have good ones or bad ones? Will the good ones be reserved for the rich, while the poor women go to quacks?”
–SHIRLEY CHISHOLM


      
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#29
RE: The greatest discovery in my life
I used to fast all the time in my youth when I didn't need it because my metabolism was fast.

Since the metabolism has slowed, I only eat one meal a day. Due to my work hours, overnight shift, I don't eat at night. My one meal a day is consumed in the morning after work.

There's still this extra weight in my stomach area I cannot seem to shed.
"Never trust a fox. Looks like a dog, behaves like a cat."
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#30
RE: The greatest discovery in my life
I stopped drinking beer for 3 months and lost 40 lbs.

...i like beer.
<insert profound quote here>
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