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The greatest discovery in my life
#41
RE: The greatest discovery in my life
(March 7, 2023 at 10:24 am)arewethereyet Wrote: I think that it's the idea that a person eats at this time and that time and then again at this time doesn't work for everyone.  I am not hungry when I wake up in the morning so breakfast hasn't been a thing for me since it was forced on me by my parents.  Work and school give you a time for lunch, it doesn't matter if you are hungry or not.  You eat then or go without.  Then there is the evening meal.  When I was a kid, supper was at 6 pm, period.  When I worked till 6 as a senior in high school, I got home about 6:15.  Supper wasn't delayed, it was done by the time I got home.  I could eat some leftovers before doing the dishes.

I am much happier now that I can eat when I am hungry and not because it's noon.  We have been made to believe that the scheduled eating is what we do.  Yeah, that doesn't work for me.

Now, if I were diabetic and needed to eat a certain amount in certain amounts of time, I would have to adjust to that.  I sometimes need to eat something in order to take certain medications.  But I can't work with a strict schedule of morning, noon, and night.  My desire for food doesn't follow a clock.

If I don't implement some kind of structure on such things, I go all to hell. I stayed up an hour past my bedtime on Friday and Saturday, and by Sunday I was paying the price. I was tired all day. As someone who has been retired by disability for 30 years and has few obligations externally imposed upon me, structural is crucial to me staying functional. I don't have a scheduled time for lunch, but if I don't eat my overnight oats by 8:30 am, and start dinner at 9 pm, I'll just put things off and let them slide and pretty soon I'm simply not doing the things that keep me healthy. You're right that it's not for everyone and that everyone is different, but the utility of using structure to achieve specific goals, including eating right, can't be overlooked.
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#42
RE: The greatest discovery in my life
(March 7, 2023 at 10:38 am)Angrboda Wrote:
(March 7, 2023 at 10:24 am)arewethereyet Wrote: I think that it's the idea that a person eats at this time and that time and then again at this time doesn't work for everyone.  I am not hungry when I wake up in the morning so breakfast hasn't been a thing for me since it was forced on me by my parents.  Work and school give you a time for lunch, it doesn't matter if you are hungry or not.  You eat then or go without.  Then there is the evening meal.  When I was a kid, supper was at 6 pm, period.  When I worked till 6 as a senior in high school, I got home about 6:15.  Supper wasn't delayed, it was done by the time I got home.  I could eat some leftovers before doing the dishes.

I am much happier now that I can eat when I am hungry and not because it's noon.  We have been made to believe that the scheduled eating is what we do.  Yeah, that doesn't work for me.

Now, if I were diabetic and needed to eat a certain amount in certain amounts of time, I would have to adjust to that.  I sometimes need to eat something in order to take certain medications.  But I can't work with a strict schedule of morning, noon, and night.  My desire for food doesn't follow a clock.

If I don't implement some kind of structure on such things, I go all to hell.  I stayed up an hour past my bedtime on Friday and Saturday, and by Sunday I was paying the price.  I was tired all day.  As someone who has been retired by disability for 30 years and has few obligations externally imposed upon me, structural is crucial to me staying functional.  I don't have a scheduled time for lunch, but if I don't eat my overnight oats by 8:30 am, and start dinner at 9 pm, I'll just put things off and let them slide and pretty soon I'm simply not doing the things that keep me healthy.  You're right that it's not for everyone and that everyone is different, but the utility of using structure to achieve specific goals, including eating right, can't be overlooked.

And then there's me, I just snack all day long one day, or hardly eat anything another day, no real structure to it, or some times more than others, so yeah, if there's anything we're learning from this thread, it's that no one size fits all.
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#43
RE: The greatest discovery in my life
(March 7, 2023 at 10:38 am)Angrboda Wrote:
(March 7, 2023 at 10:24 am)arewethereyet Wrote: I think that it's the idea that a person eats at this time and that time and then again at this time doesn't work for everyone.  I am not hungry when I wake up in the morning so breakfast hasn't been a thing for me since it was forced on me by my parents.  Work and school give you a time for lunch, it doesn't matter if you are hungry or not.  You eat then or go without.  Then there is the evening meal.  When I was a kid, supper was at 6 pm, period.  When I worked till 6 as a senior in high school, I got home about 6:15.  Supper wasn't delayed, it was done by the time I got home.  I could eat some leftovers before doing the dishes.

I am much happier now that I can eat when I am hungry and not because it's noon.  We have been made to believe that the scheduled eating is what we do.  Yeah, that doesn't work for me.

Now, if I were diabetic and needed to eat a certain amount in certain amounts of time, I would have to adjust to that.  I sometimes need to eat something in order to take certain medications.  But I can't work with a strict schedule of morning, noon, and night.  My desire for food doesn't follow a clock.

If I don't implement some kind of structure on such things, I go all to hell.  I stayed up an hour past my bedtime on Friday and Saturday, and by Sunday I was paying the price.  I was tired all day.  As someone who has been retired by disability for 30 years and has few obligations externally imposed upon me, structural is crucial to me staying functional.  I don't have a scheduled time for lunch, but if I don't eat my overnight oats by 8:30 am, and start dinner at 9 pm, I'll just put things off and let them slide and pretty soon I'm simply not doing the things that keep me healthy.  You're right that it's not for everyone and that everyone is different, but the utility of using structure to achieve specific goals, including eating right, can't be overlooked.

I have structure with other things.  For instance, I work part time from home and could do my work any time.  As long as it gets done, it's all good.  I start promptly at 7:30 every morning.  The only real push I have is for payroll every other week, that's the one thing that's written in stone.

I also feed the parrots at 3 pm.  Every day of the week.  Other than that, it's a free for all.
  
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#44
RE: The greatest discovery in my life
(March 7, 2023 at 6:58 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(March 7, 2023 at 12:12 am)Helios Wrote: All quackery sounds convincing and some of it even has a grain of truth. But no it's quackery

That's simply not true.

Boru

Quackery is quackery. I think you may be objecting to something that wasn't said.
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#45
RE: The greatest discovery in my life
Wow, this thread is picking up steam after the OP vowed to leave.

I haven't watched the video, but the doctor's claims (as documented in a wall of text) are a reasonable synthesis of some research the doctor knows, and I bet there are some truths in there. There is also likely a lot of false conclusions.

Every semi-expert thinks they can read the current literature, or take the anecdotes of their experience and synthesize a Grand Unified understanding of their field of interest. They are almost always wrong. Not wrong in all parts, but wrong in their synthesis. They miss important facts, or are wrong about some things.

I have one example from a nutritional supplement MLM that my wife was involved with. The doctor who helped found the company was propped up as some genius on the nutrition of cells. He understood how to make cells live longer in a Petri dish. The idea was that if you gave the body the same nutritional supplements, people would either live longer, or at least live healthier lives.

They tried to create a story using some studies into anti-oxidants, but in the end it was quackery. More studies show anti-oxidants make people live shorter lives, than showed they live longer ones. At best it is neutral, but there is real evidence that while some anti-oxidants help with premature cell aging, supplemented anti-oxidants increases cancer risk.

The body is a complicated thing. Probably few of us are living the ideal lifestyle or eating the ideal way, but in the end, we have to find what works for us. When in doubt, use moderation.
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