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RE: Just When You Thought Arizona Couldn't Get Stupider...
April 11, 2011 at 2:21 am
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Alright Dot, if I may present a situation to you. Say you're on a campus with about... Five hundred people milling about, everybody cannot see everybody else at all times and about 20% of these people have deemed that they will be armed on this day due to the new legislation. Gunshots are heard and lets say that 20% of these people decide to draw their firearms and look for the disturbance. Now excluding the possibiity that it was an accidental discharge of faulty ammunition or something like that, the first person who sees another person with a gun is likely to shoot first and ask questions later since the psychopath isn't going to be twirling his moustache and eating a baby as he gleefully mows down civillians. Now if one person sees another with a gun, as I said, they will most likely shoot first and ask questions later and will probably in turn end up getting shot themselves by some other cowboy dipshit who saw them gun down some poor bastard. Hell, even unarmed people will get shot, they might just be waving their phone around and from a distance it might look like a gun. The thing is, you don't know who is who just by looking at them. The psycho could be running from someone who genuinely knows that theyve been murdering people and then the pursuer (if he has his weapon drawn) could get shot by some other cowboy douchebag because he is chasing your psycho with his weapon drawn. This is about flow of information and confusion. Not the right to keep and bear arms. This legislation, based on what it is designed to combat, has some serious fucking problems. This isn't even going into how many bystanders could die just from poorly aimed shots going wild or riccocheting. You're not thinking this through. If someone is shooting, you have no idea who they are or what they look like and anyone you see with a gun is going to be a legitimate target.
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RE: Just When You Thought Arizona Couldn't Get Stupider...
April 11, 2011 at 2:31 am
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Just get rid of the safe zones. 90% of the mass killing problems are gone, except warfare and dumb gun laws. Make better gun laws and PRESTO! End of 99% of gun issues are resolved. Time for the 1%, human error.
(April 11, 2011 at 2:21 am)Ubermensch Wrote: Alright Dot, if I may present a situation to you. Say you're on a campus with about... Five hundred people milling about, everybody cannot see everybody else at all times and about 20% of these people have deemed that they will be armed on this day due to the new legislation. Gunshots are heard and lets say that 20% of these people decide to draw their firearms and look for the disturbance. Now excluding the possibiity that it was an accidental discharge of faulty ammunition or something like that, the first person who sees another person with a gun is likely to shoot first and ask questions later since the psychopath isn't going to be twirling his moustache and eating a baby as he gleefully mows down civillians. Now if one person sees another with a gun, as I said, they will most likely shoot first and ask questions later and will probably in turn end up getting shot themselves by some other cowboy dipshit who saw them gun down some poor bastard. Hell, even unarmed people will get shot, they might just be waving their phone around and from a distance it might look like a gun. The thing is, you don't know who is who just by looking at them. The psycho could be running from someone who genuinely knows that theyve been murdering people and then the pursuer (if he has his weapon drawn) could get shot by some other cowboy douchebag because he is chasing your psycho with his weapon drawn. This is about flow of information and confusion. Not the right to keep and bear arms. This legislation, based on what it is designed to combat, has some serious fucking problems. This isn't even going into how many bystanders could die just from poorly aimed shots going wild or riccocheting. You're not thinking this through. If someone is shooting, you have no idea who they are or what they look like and anyone you see with a gun is going to be a legitimate target.
All we need here is gun education for the masses from gun and brain experts. No more dipshits.
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RE: Just When You Thought Arizona Couldn't Get Stupider...
April 11, 2011 at 7:18 am
Uber's silly story Wrote:Alright Dot, if I may present a situation to you. Say you're on a campus with about...
We could sit here and exchange goofy senarios. That would get us nowhere. Of course your stories would have horrible disasterous endings, mine would have adverted disasters and much life saving.
It means nothing. So I won't waste my time making up a story about how a murderous rampage was adverted by one citizen and his gun. Or about how a raping murdering home invader or street stalker was stopped cold by an armed woman.
Or about how you and your woman while walking down the street and have a gang of three with knives stop you and demand your wallet and woman for raping and all you have for defense is your hat.
I could go on all day with the stupid meaningless senarios.
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RE: Just When You Thought Arizona Couldn't Get Stupider...
April 11, 2011 at 7:49 am
America is such a great country: we never run out of bullets! ^_^
Even my laptop computer is armed. If you touch Vivi v3 in her special spot: she will shoot you dead. I swear... virgins are a bigger danger to this world than any gun-wielding psycho will ever be.
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RE: Just When You Thought Arizona Couldn't Get Stupider...
April 11, 2011 at 7:56 am
(April 11, 2011 at 7:18 am)Dotard Wrote: Or about how a raping murdering home invader or street stalker was stopped cold by an armed woman.
Here is my favorite recent one.
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RE: Just When You Thought Arizona Couldn't Get Stupider...
April 11, 2011 at 8:03 am
Really don't see how the tattoos are relevant.. .at all.
Four times? Wow. I'd have thought 2ce would have been quite enough. He doesn't have a gun and is currently groundfighting without a weapon? Not an immediate threat to be neutralized.
Still wouldn't persecute her though. Chide her? Yes.
The intruder seems like a moron. He was unarmed and trying to rob people that are home? 0.o That's amazingly stupid. Maybe my sleepy eyes passed over a mention of weapons though.
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RE: Just When You Thought Arizona Couldn't Get Stupider...
April 11, 2011 at 8:18 am
I don't know which way to go on the issue of owning and concealing guns legally. How do we keep criminals from having them?
Good to have a gun when faced with nutters, all you gotta do is aim and they'll soon fuck off. Or end up going to a friends funeral.
Having a gun can fend off violent criminals like murderers, yobs, rapists an all that, but how do we keep guns with the good guys and away from the bad?
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RE: Just When You Thought Arizona Couldn't Get Stupider...
April 11, 2011 at 8:27 am
Ace Otana Wrote:I don't know which way to go on the issue of owning and concealing guns legally. How do we keep criminals from having them?
Because restricting them does such a good job of this so far??
Quote:Having a gun can fend off violent criminals like murderers, yobs, rapists an all that, but how do we keep guns with the good guys and away from the bad?
You can't.
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RE: Just When You Thought Arizona Couldn't Get Stupider...
April 11, 2011 at 9:29 am
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(April 11, 2011 at 8:03 am)Aerzia Saerules Arktuos Wrote: Still wouldn't persecute her though. Chide her? Yes.
She basically can't be prosecuted in Florida. Strong Castle Doctrine.
(April 11, 2011 at 8:18 am)Ace Otana Wrote: Good to have a gun when faced with nutters, all you gotta do is aim and they'll soon fuck off.
You never point a gun at anything you don't intend on shooting.
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RE: Just When You Thought Arizona Couldn't Get Stupider...
April 11, 2011 at 10:01 am
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