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Why do you prefer serial killers?
#21
RE: Why do you prefer serial killers?
(May 14, 2023 at 11:18 am)Believe Heart Wrote:
There are serial killers living among us who choose their targets without any logical reason. Even though it is highly unlikely, you can be one of their victims. Now imagine yourself sitting on a serial killer’s chair, tightly bound and crying not from fear or hopelessness but from excruciating pain. There is really nothing to stop him except watching him parting you piece by piece in unbearable pain.


As a Muslim, I wonder something. God sent hundreds of prophets over thousands of years, from Adam, Noah, Abraham, Moses, and Jesus to Mohammad. They were all kind, nice, and reliable people who said “We don’t want anything from you; our rewards belong to God.” They all had the same message which you already know very well. However, you didn’t care about them; instead, you hated them, mocked them, and even killed some of them. 

On the other hand, now you are in a chair waiting for death, bound and helpless, you pray to God to save your life. 

The question is: while hundreds of nice and kind prophets of God could not make you believe in Him, how come a serial killer can open your blind eyes and let you see him? In fact, all this time, you were denying the existence of God just because you couldn’t see Him.

Your analogy doesn't work beause apart from countries where you're jailed for being the "wrong" religion, atheists make up a far smaller percentage of the prison population than they do the general population.

If there is a god, then why are atheists more moral than religious?
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#22
RE: Why do you prefer serial killers?
(May 14, 2023 at 11:21 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: Isolated and exclusivized. Cherry picking if you will. Your god(s) are right bastards but you look to them for salvation? Codependency at best.

Just for you to know, believe me, everyone has a melting temperature. 
Besides you should hear the message from Allah to you about this subject 
" Don’t they see that they suffer from heavy calamities once or twice a year? Despite this, they still do not repent and do not take heed (Tevbe 126).

Do you know what really saddens me? The difficulty of reaching people who have grown up in a Christian country, with very strong prejudices due to learning things that are contradictory and not related to reason and logic (which can be called schizophrenic) and become hostile towards all religions.
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#23
RE: Why do you prefer serial killers?
(May 15, 2023 at 2:28 am)GUBU Wrote:
(May 14, 2023 at 11:18 am)Believe Heart Wrote:
There are serial killers living among us who choose their targets without any logical reason. Even though it is highly unlikely, you can be one of their victims. Now imagine yourself sitting on a serial killer’s chair, tightly bound and crying not from fear or hopelessness but from excruciating pain. There is really nothing to stop him except watching him parting you piece by piece in unbearable pain.


As a Muslim, I wonder something. God sent hundreds of prophets over thousands of years, from Adam, Noah, Abraham, Moses, and Jesus to Mohammad. They were all kind, nice, and reliable people who said “We don’t want anything from you; our rewards belong to God.” They all had the same message which you already know very well. However, you didn’t care about them; instead, you hated them, mocked them, and even killed some of them. 

On the other hand, now you are in a chair waiting for death, bound and helpless, you pray to God to save your life. 

The question is: while hundreds of nice and kind prophets of God could not make you believe in Him, how come a serial killer can open your blind eyes and let you see him? In fact, all this time, you were denying the existence of God just because you couldn’t see Him.

Your analogy doesn't work beause apart from countries where you're jailed for being the "wrong" religion, atheists make up a far smaller percentage of the prison population than they do the general population.

If there is a god, then why are atheists more moral than religious?

I am not writing this sentence because I am someone who enjoys being argumentative but, first of all, since the percentage of atheists is considerably lower than that of believers, it is a mathematical fact that a smaller proportion of atheists will be represented among those who enter prison. 

However, there is a main fact that needs to be explained here.

Allah has designed all humans with moral and ethical values. When we are born, we already know the basic concepts of right and wrong. In fact, in the Quran, Allah says "Call the humans to Islam which is the natural characteristic of humans designed by Allah himself. The Quran defines itself as a “reminder”, so it does not construct a new person but rather helps beautiful souls remember their essence and return to themselves.

That’s why some people who are not religious still have personal integrity.
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#24
RE: Why do you prefer serial killers?
(May 15, 2023 at 6:23 am)Believe Heart Wrote:
(May 14, 2023 at 11:21 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: Isolated and exclusivized. Cherry picking if you will. Your god(s) are right bastards but you look to them for salvation? Codependency at best.

Just for you to know, believe me, everyone has a melting temperature. 
Besides you should hear the message from Allah to you about this subject 
" Don’t they see that they suffer from heavy calamities once or twice a year? Despite this, they still do not repent and do not take heed (Tevbe 126).

Do you know what really saddens me? The difficulty of reaching people who have grown up in a Christian country, with very strong prejudices due to learning things that are contradictory and not related to reason and logic (which can be called schizophrenic) and become hostile towards all religions.

But does not the Book of Cyril state, "A man who uses a sword as a toothpick shall surely need dentures"?
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#25
RE: Why do you prefer serial killers?
(May 14, 2023 at 1:25 pm)h4ym4n Wrote: Hilarious, god always needs a middleman, serpent, burning bush or a donkey 


god would have a front row seat of you snuff porn scenario. Watching everything so it knows who to punish after they die.. right?

On the contrary, as I mentioned, God sent his kindest and nicest servants for us to learn his way...

Please think about it
The guardians of Hell never say to the people of Hell, "Here is a punishment from Allah", on the contrary, they say, "This is the punishment for what you have done".

The problem is not about him, it is really about us and what we have done...
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#26
RE: Why do you prefer serial killers?
(May 15, 2023 at 6:44 am)The Valkyrie Wrote:
(May 15, 2023 at 6:23 am)Believe Heart Wrote: Just for you to know, believe me, everyone has a melting temperature. 
Besides you should hear the message from Allah to you about this subject 
" Don’t they see that they suffer from heavy calamities once or twice a year? Despite this, they still do not repent and do not take heed (Tevbe 126).

Do you know what really saddens me? The difficulty of reaching people who have grown up in a Christian country, with very strong prejudices due to learning things that are contradictory and not related to reason and logic (which can be called schizophrenic) and become hostile towards all religions.

But does not the Book of Cyril state, "A man who uses a sword as a toothpick shall surely need dentures"?

Heretic! You know the Book of Cyril was declared anathema by the Orthodox Orthodontics Council of 1382.

Boru
‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson
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#27
RE: Why do you prefer serial killers?
god is complete and utter horseshit! Stories made up by hoomans who did not understand the natural sciences occuring all around them. They fabricated fables to quell their fears.


Again I will ask, the most current version of the hooman being is roughly 150,000 years old. The god of abraham is about 3,500 or so years ago.

What happened to all those folk who were never introduced to this god of yours?

Why is it that history, reason, and the slightest amount of logic tear down the house of cards that is religion, and all its asinine beliefs?


How come the Triceratops , Stegosaurs, Allosaurus, were never included in rendezvous point with the wish granting magical sky pixie?
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#28
RE: Why do you prefer serial killers?
(May 15, 2023 at 6:23 am)Believe Heart Wrote:
(May 14, 2023 at 11:21 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: Isolated and exclusivized. Cherry picking if you will. Your god(s) are right bastards but you look to them for salvation? Codependency at best.

Just for you to know, believe me, everyone has a melting temperature. 
Besides you should hear the message from Allah to you about this subject 




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#29
RE: Why do you prefer serial killers?
(May 15, 2023 at 6:49 am)Believe Heart Wrote:
(May 14, 2023 at 1:25 pm)h4ym4n Wrote: Hilarious, god always needs a middleman, serpent, burning bush or a donkey 


god would have a front row seat of you snuff porn scenario. Watching everything so it knows who to punish after they die.. right?

On the contrary, as I mentioned, God sent his kindest and nicest servants for us to learn his way...

Please think about it
The guardians of Hell never say to the people of Hell, "Here is a punishment from Allah", on the contrary, they say, "This is the punishment for what you have done".

The problem is not about him, it is really about us and what we have done...



Please YOU think about it.

“god sent”

That’s a middleman 

Your god can’t do it’s own work and speak for itself.

Pathetic

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#30
RE: Why do you prefer serial killers?
(May 15, 2023 at 6:23 am)Believe Heart Wrote:
(May 14, 2023 at 11:21 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: Isolated and exclusivized. Cherry picking if you will. Your god(s) are right bastards but you look to them for salvation? Codependency at best.

Just for you to know, believe me, everyone has a melting temperature. 
Besides you should hear the message from Allah to you about this subject 
" Don’t they see that they suffer from heavy calamities once or twice a year? Despite this, they still do not repent and do not take heed (Tevbe 126).

Do you know what really saddens me? The difficulty of reaching people who have grown up in a Christian country, with very strong prejudices due to learning things that are contradictory and not related to reason and logic (which can be called schizophrenic) and become hostile towards all religions.

I'll believe anything if you torture me enough. The same method would work just as well to get me to swear allegiance to Kali as Allah. A method that generates any answer you want has nothing to do with what's actually true.
I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-stupid.
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