If everything has a purpose then evil doesn't exist

[arewethereyet]

Couldn't have anything to do with the fact most cultures live near bodies of water and thus would experience floods couldn't have anything to do with the fact saviour myths are a common motif across pretty much every culture. No what you are providing is camp fire tales as evidence which it is not.

welcome to the conversation. Your concerns were already addressed in post 217:

Just bear with me.

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Let's say the world today experiences a pole reversal and it causes a massive global tsunami it wipes out everything, and everyone except those who had the foresight to bunker down like in the Colorado's or Norway's doomsday vault Which is essentially what the ark is (A repository of seed and I think even animal embryos.. what Noah's story does. Now lets say it takes 6000 years for humanity and the world to recover to the same point (more or less) to where the world is now. What indicators do you think would exist of us, and the flood 6000 years into our future? Would anything exist but a tale of a great flood that almost every single civilization who can be traced back to that period one way or another all have in common?

Again this is an example of the need for establishing what the evidence would in fact look like/Could possibly exist, BEFORE insisting/demanding that evidence can be only presented through a specific confirmation bias.

It is unrealistic to demand that specific evidence be provided, if none is available or could not possibly exist. which is what makes such an unreasonable demand a confirmation bias.

Meaning with in the frame work of a great global flood nothing could have survived but exactly what we have now. 700+ civilization who can trace themselves back to the point where these stories were told and they all share the common key points of this story.

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More bullshit awaits.

[R-Farmer]

read the blue printed part of the article. It literally says at the depths in the earth that this ringwoodite (Rock containing water) is, there is enough force to squeeze the water out of the rock.. Kinda LIKE how An Artesian Well works/water squeezed out of the strata.

what is funny is you are arguing with cited and referenced material from a publicly recognized source with your own person understanding of the subject. No references no citations, nothing to refute what the cited material I quoted actually says. What's more you don't seem to understand you are not challenging anything I have personally produced. but rather published/peer review works from reputable geologists. 

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see, in reality, interrelationship between demonstrable facts and known properties of materials and forces matter,  and quoting chapter and verse does not. 

if you wasted your life reading the bible instead of learning about reality it is not my job to write you a text book in the implausible event you would suddenly see the light, so to speak, and want to catch up.

Suffice it to say look up the pressure and temperature at 700km depth.  look up the strength of available rocks and minerals at 700 kms.   see if porosity, much less an open hole to the surface, can exist.

Then look up the pressure and temperature again, look up the property it water, and see if water can continue to exist if pressure is relieved at that temperature.

Look up the temperature again.    look at the strength of chemical bonds with stuff like amino acids, you know, the actual stuff you are made from, not the biblical clay, and see whether they can continue to exist at that temperature or anywhere near a flood of substances at that temperature.

It is funny that, having made this entire thread a long lamentable exhibition of your total ignorance of all that has been discovered since the bronze age yokels wrote your bible,   you still brazenly double down on imaginative ludicrosity and yammer away instead of  cutting your losses, and stop being yet a further ambarassemrnt to your bible sprouting ignoramus kind.

again.. You are arguing with cited scientific data from reputable sources.. Not my own exposition, AND foolishlywith nothing more than your say so to back up your claim.

(smart people know this is a foolish practice.) 

Because EVEN IF you were a published geologist the only opportunity you would have in a formal discussion is to present supporting citations and evidence that directly refutes the data provided in the quoted material I presented. 

You have yet to do this. rather you went back to your cave man tactic of intellectual bulling through a series of ad hom attempts to kill the credibility of the messenger without actually formally addressing the cited message in any legitimate way. You say I said so is not a legitimate argument.

[The Grand Nudger]

Every new avenue is somehow more wrong and more bizarre than the last. Every attempt to make it less supernatural leads to an even more miraculous set of circumstances which have to be rationalized away by yet another avenue. So on and so forth, in perpetuity.

This growing list of nonsense that you believe in is simply untrue, R. Worse, none of it -needs- to be true for a god to exist. Each batshit claim is an extra burden you place on god.

This kind of stuff is why no one believes in god anymore. Well done.

[R-Farmer]

What are you talking about?

Asking for C-V has taught you valuable lesson on how long the ark drifted. You’re welcome!

Again the ark did not drift but for 150 days... You do not seem to understand, that when you ask how long did the ark drift and when did everyone get out of the ark were two different events. you keep confounding the two. your flip-flopping is what confused me and I made the mistake I originally made confusing the two events as well. I just took my medicine rather than go back and prove your error, knowing you would make it again soon enough

3 The water receded steadily from the earth. At the end of the hundred and fifty days the water had gone down, 4 and on the seventeenth day of the seventh month the ark came to rest on the mountains of Ararat.

Everyone disembarked almost 150 days after the point it ran aground.

and you are equally as welcome that I took the time to explain this as well.

Also like I said in the very beginning, you live and die by the bible. Incapable of thinking outside of it. Aka, lean not on your own understanding……..

IDK about that I've been able to best the best of you at literally every turn.

Do you believe in witches that are capable of doing evil with witchcraft?

emo witches who burn sage and do tik toks live begging people to put money in their go fund accounts so they can go to some convention in Salem on halloween, or they might start cutting themselves again?

nope.

I'm not saying they can't do evil as evil is simply the love of sin. I'm saying no they can not conjure stuff/demons or influence people outside of their followers on instagram/tiktok.

[arewethereyet]

[R-Farmer]

welcome to the conversation. Your concerns were already addressed in post 217:

Just bear with me.

Let's say the world today experiences a pole reversal and it causes a massive global tsunami it wipes out everything, and everyone except those who had the foresight to bunker down like in the Colorado's or Norway's doomsday vault Which is essentially what the ark is (A repository of seed and I think even animal embryos.. what Noah's story does. Now lets say it takes 6000 years for humanity and the world to recover to the same point (more or less) to where the world is now. What indicators do you think would exist of us, and the flood 6000 years into our future? Would anything exist but a tale of a great flood that almost every single civilization who can be traced back to that period one way or another all have in common?

Again this is an example of the need for establishing what the evidence would in fact look like/Could possibly exist, BEFORE insisting/demanding that evidence can be only presented through a specific confirmation bias.

It is unrealistic to demand that specific evidence be provided, if none is available or could not possibly exist. which is what makes such an unreasonable demand a confirmation bias.

Meaning with in the frame work of a great global flood nothing could have survived but exactly what we have now. 700+ civilization who can trace themselves back to the point where these stories were told and they all share the common key points of this story.

 
What evidence would there be if there were a global tsunami 6000 years ago.   Besides a tale…….


hmmmm, 

Let’s see.    distinctive and characteristic tsunami deposits at a strata associated with 6000 years ago all around the world, in a distribution on land that tells exactly how high the tsunamis were, and therefore how far in land it went,  and from the distribution of the tsunami deposits relative to the contou of the coastline, exactly where the tsunami originated? 

See,  We would bear with you if there were 2 brain cells and one piece of real knowledge in you to bear with.   Most dunces who clung to the Bible and smoked crack in science classes still retain some very vague notions of just what science can find out.   But not you, apparently.

But every time I thought you are as ignorant as a person can be, you put on yet another stellarly brazen exhibition of just how much more ignorant than that you actually are.

can I send a link to you via pm that shows all these things you claim to be looking for? or you can google Joe rogan evidence world wide flood.

Joe has a published geologist on that shows conclusive evidence of a world wide flood.

[Ahriman]

I'm not saying they can't do evil as evil is simply the love of sin. I'm saying no they can not conjure stuff/demons or influence people outside of their followers on instagram/tiktok.

I agree with you on this. Summoning demons is not a real thing and it annoys me that some people think it is a real thing.

[R-Farmer]

Every new avenue is somehow more wrong and  more bizarre than the last.  Every attempt to make it less supernatural leads to an even more miraculous set of circumstances which have to be rationalized away by yet another avenue.  So on and so forth, in perpetuity.

This growing list of nonsense that you believe in is simply untrue, R.  Worse, none of it -needs- to be true for a god to exist.  Each batshit claim is an extra burden you place on god.

This kind of stuff is why no one believes in god anymore.  Well done.

Is this how things work around here? involve yourself in a discussion until you get bored or can't refute what is being said then pretend to take the high road by being to good for the discussion due to cutting your opponent off at the knees by attacking his credibility over content.

If you want to discuss details of actual content, I make myself available for that. otherwise if you are trying to undermine my confidence by calling me names.. Then I'm sure some of the gathers of low hanging fruit will be more suited to help you do just that.

[R-Farmer]

I'm not saying they can't do evil as evil is simply the love of sin. I'm saying no they can not conjure stuff/demons or influence people outside of their followers on instagram/tiktok.

I agree with you on this. Summoning demons is not a real thing and it annoys me that some people think it is a real thing.

why would a far more powerful creature be summon and controlled by some douche and a hand full of trinkets?

[Anomalocaris]

 
What evidence would there be if there were a global tsunami 6000 years ago.   Besides a tale…….


hmmmm, 

Let’s see.    distinctive and characteristic tsunami deposits at a strata associated with 6000 years ago all around the world, in a distribution on land that tells exactly how high the tsunamis were, and therefore how far in land it went,  and from the distribution of the tsunami deposits relative to the contou of the coastline, exactly where the tsunami originated? 

See,  We would bear with you if there were 2 brain cells and one piece of real knowledge in you to bear with.   Most dunces who clung to the Bible and smoked crack in science classes still retain some very vague notions of just what science can find out.   But not you, apparently.

But every time I thought you are as ignorant as a person can be, you put on yet another stellarly brazen exhibition of just how much more ignorant than that you actually are.

can I send a link to you via pm that shows all these things you claim to be looking for? or you can google Joe rogan evidence world wide flood.

Joe has a published geologist on that shows conclusive evidence of a world wide flood.

This Joe Rogan?