If everything has a purpose then evil doesn't exist

[R-Farmer]

Is there some objection you have to harm based objectivism?

Only that there are no examples of it. As there is not one point of morality in all of human culture or in human history that has not had it's morality status changed. If Moral objectivity was a valid concept then wouldn't there be at let one example of it? Doesn't the very definition of the phrase indicate that there is an intrinsic moral value that does not change? If so please provide an example of this objective moral value that remains constant while society changes around it.

[R-Farmer]

which makes you a incorrigible loser

 OMG now everyone knows!!

[Anomalocaris]

everybody knew for a long time. Rest assured that we absolutely did not think more highly of you before you made your last post then we do now.

[Anomalocaris]

“Objective morality” is oxymoronic in the same way as “objective preference”. This statement that morality is an emergent property of physical reality is, to borrow a phrase so favored through endless misuse by religious apologists, a category error.

the tendency to formulate something like a system of morality may conceivable be an emergent property of cognating social beings.   what individual instances of morality actually are, mostly certainly is chaotic and subject to massive perturbations by least differences in contingent input conditions.

So perhaps the only objective morality would be someone will beat you over the head with their pet notion of morality.    what that morality itself would be as variable as children’s doodle.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Thousands of years, no proof. You lose.

im ok with that.

Yep, just a fucking lazy thinker.

[R-Farmer]

“Objective morality” is oxymoronic in the same way as “objective preference”. This statement that morality is an emergent property of physical reality is, to borrow a phrase so favored through endless misuse by religious apologists, a category error.

the tendency to formulate something like a system of morality may conceivable be an emergent property of cognating social beings.   what individual instances of morality actually are, mostly certainly is chaotic and subject to massive perturbations by least differences in contingent input conditions.

So perhaps the only objective morality would be someone will beat you over the head with their pet notion of morality.    what that morality itself would be as variable as children’s doodle.

this should be fun.. 

What's my position on objective morality?

What is the position of everyone else who has been discussing objective morality?

and finally what is yours?

[R-Farmer]

im ok with that.

Yep, just a fucking lazy thinker.

This thread would indicate otherwise, as I am the primary contributor of 15 pages +/-  of dialog in about a weeks time. where I have offered many new counter points I myself have come up with, to some very old discussions that seemly from my POV most of you were not prepared to address... 
 or does proof only matter when you get to define it? either way, whatever floats you boat. As I am not chasing after you to discuss God. especially when you open with a general dismissal of Everything said, observed, witnessed or/and documented for thousands of years. As all this indicates is you are wanting to have a gate keeping discussion where you have already made it known, no amount or type of information I can provide will be considered.

You may call this lazy, the Bible/Jesus calls it 'Not throwing your pearls of wisdom before swine.' The idea not to to call you a pig per say but rather a command to us not put things of great value infront of those whom you know will not appreciate or find value in your 'pearls of wisdom.'

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Chattering isn't important. You duck and weave and fail and fail and fail. We've been through this more times than you can count.

[Anomalocaris]

an lazy and feeble intellectual bum who is animates by the pitiful and disgraceful susceptibility, typical of his discreditable kind, to the idiot’s allure of the worthless delusion that he is on a mission from god.

any slightly less stupid observer will see what made the likes of him can be no god.

[Ahriman]

Chattering isn't important. You duck and weave and fail and fail and fail. We've been through this more times than you can count.

I don't agree with Farmer, but isn't chattering like, the basis of discussion?