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RE: If everything has a purpose then evil doesn't exist
June 21, 2023 at 5:15 pm
(June 21, 2023 at 2:51 pm)h4ym4n Wrote: (June 21, 2023 at 2:29 pm)R-Farmer Wrote: where you get 300? do you have book chapter and verse to support this number?
Maybe you oughta read and familiarize yourself with the story starting in gen 6 before you start trying to represent it.
Got that chapter and verse for the egg collection instead of walking things going on the ark? nope. It's just a plausible explanation supports by the original hebrew text. meaning if one were so inclined one could interpret the original text to include eggs/baby mammals. as the words originally used do not have a straight modern taxonomical word or phrase that it translates to.
If you look at the raw translation it simply says "Everything living made of flesh take two of, into the ark" this would obviously support the offspring of those animals.
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RE: If everything has a purpose then evil doesn't exist
June 21, 2023 at 5:16 pm
(June 21, 2023 at 3:03 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote: (June 21, 2023 at 2:29 pm)R-Farmer Wrote: where you get 300? do you have book chapter and verse to support this number?
Maybe you oughta read and familiarize yourself with the story starting in gen 6 before you start trying to represent it.
40 days and 40 nights.
chicken eggs hatch in 21 days
duck eggs hatch in 27 days
pheasant eggs hatch in ~20 days
song bird eggs hatch in ~10-15 days
what I wrote to nudger:
incubation periods take any where from 9 to 80 days in larger birds. Plus there is a 10- 21 day period that an egg will stay viable, before it needs to be incubated.
This is if God doesn't step in and do anything to keep them viable longer than their normal dormancy period.
They were only in the ark a total of a 150 days. And if they hatched while on the ark so what..
Let's say a chicken egg that God did nothing to, went 10 days then was incubated another 3 weeks. so a total 4 weeks or 30 days into the 150 day or approx 5 month journey. that's 30 days of no feeding no cleaning up poop, nothing. then after they hatch 4 to 6 month later they start laying eggs again..
The point is for anywhere between 19 to 100 days (dormant/incubation period) there is no need to feed care for or clean up after these birds.
If again God does nothing different. If you are looking for a magic act and in your mind god need to 'magic' something in this story, then have him 'magic' the dormancy period of the eggs.
Or
Don't. as it truly makes no difference, other than making more work for Noah and his house inorder see to the needs of those eggs.
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RE: If everything has a purpose then evil doesn't exist
June 21, 2023 at 5:17 pm
(June 21, 2023 at 3:07 pm)zebo-the-fat Wrote: (June 21, 2023 at 2:32 pm)R-Farmer Wrote: So... You know the cost of magic-ing that level of sin and debauchery off the earth, and have determined a flood is harder? if not how have you determined what God did is harder?
He can make a universe but has trouble with a bit of water and some animals?
Second rate god you got there!
what trouble do you speak of?
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RE: If everything has a purpose then evil doesn't exist
June 21, 2023 at 6:25 pm
(June 21, 2023 at 4:48 pm)R-Farmer Wrote: (June 21, 2023 at 2:41 pm)h4ym4n Wrote: It was a question for you.. Gen 7 24 The waters flooded the earth for a hundred and fifty days.
Quote:You are far more up on this word of god than I am.
How long did they drift around after the 40 days and night rain storm?
150 - 40 = 110
Quote:Had to be long enough for an olive tree to sprout leaves? Or was that majiked also?
IDK. It would seem to me maybe the tree survived from before the flood because it takes a really long time from a olive tree to grow. seems to make more sense that the tree somehow survived and maybe began to sprout some leaves on a branch, that the bird saw and took. the Bible does not give specific detail out side of green leaves on an olive branch was used to indicate that the water had receded enough for life to start over.
Your math is like claiming there’s three days from Friday to Sunday.
Did you miss this R?
Answers in Genius says 370 days
https://answersingenesis.org/bible-timel...-timeline/
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RE: If everything has a purpose then evil doesn't exist
June 21, 2023 at 6:27 pm
(June 21, 2023 at 4:30 pm)R-Farmer Wrote: (June 21, 2023 at 1:24 pm)h4ym4n Wrote: I hope Religious-Farmer sticks around
It’s fun getting him to think for himself and watch him step on his dangly thing
You are a dude R?
Proverbs 3:5-6
New International Version
5 Trust in the Lord with all your heart
and lean not on your own understanding;
6 in all your ways submit to him,
and he will make your paths straight.[a] Am I male? yes..
You do understand what a proverb is, and isn't right?
What?
It’s not the infallible word of you god?
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RE: If everything has a purpose then evil doesn't exist
June 22, 2023 at 2:11 am
*peeks in*
Is this guy even for real?
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RE: If everything has a purpose then evil doesn't exist
June 22, 2023 at 2:15 am
(June 21, 2023 at 12:31 pm)zebo-the-fat Wrote: Seems to me this god chap just tries to do things in the hardest most complicated way possibe....
Only when apologists insert their psycho-babble in defiance of reason.
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RE: If everything has a purpose then evil doesn't exist
June 22, 2023 at 2:15 am
(June 21, 2023 at 10:54 am)R-Farmer Wrote: Maybe you haven't put it together yet but this whole putting eggs on the ark and baby mammals instead of full size adults is what makes it all work, as again it reduces the space needed to house the animals, the variety/quantity of food needed, any specialized environment requirement they may have or may create, and any threats from predatory or parasitic passengers on the ark.
You're the one failing to put it all together. According to your own fucking myth, they spent nearly a year on that fucking boat. All the birds, reptiles, and insects would have hatched and likely died for want of food (or become food for the predators), and the baby mammals, like the lions and tiger and bears (oh my) would have outgrown milk and eaten all the prey animals, and all the predators smaller than themselves (and Noah & fam). Your ignorance, willful or not, is glaringly obvious.
Magic boat doesn't work unless magic sky-daddy uses magic to put the animals to sleep and provide magic sustenance to them all, or some other equally unlikely bullshit.
You've provided an unworkable "solution" to the objections to a literal Noah story, yet you wish to try to school others about not putting it together? Chuckle-fucks like yourself really should just accept magic story as magic, or better yet, the allegory that it is, instead of trying to come up with some pseudo-scientific, pseudo-explanation that no one with a grade school understanding of science will accept.
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RE: If everything has a purpose then evil doesn't exist
June 22, 2023 at 2:24 am
(June 21, 2023 at 2:29 pm)R-Farmer Wrote: (June 21, 2023 at 12:29 pm)h4ym4n Wrote: “Nope. Not if 98% of all birds, insects, and reptiles are in egg form,”
How many eggs stay unhatched for…. How many days was the ark drifting around?
300 plus day?
Let’s hear more majik to explain it
Chapter and verse of gathering eggs please?
where you get 300? do you have book chapter and verse to support this number?
Maybe you oughta read and familiarize yourself with the story starting in gen 6 before you start trying to represent it.
Perhaps you should crack a science text before trying to give scientific explanations for magic story.
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RE: If everything has a purpose then evil doesn't exist
June 22, 2023 at 3:25 am
If everything has a purpose, evil has a purpose. Discussion over.
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