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The Historical Evidence for the Resurrection of Jesus Christ.
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RE: The Historical Evidence for the Resurrection of Jesus Christ.
@Nishant Xavier

The Toledot Yeshu as a text dates from no earlier than the 6th century. The oral Rabbinic sources on which it is based appear to be from the 3rd. Therefore, it is not historical evidence of anything other than the state of relations between Jewish and Christian communities. It also states that the resurrection was a hoax, so it's probably not a source you should point to.

Tacitus only mentions that Christians were troublemakers, he makes no statement attesting to the resurrection. Ditto Pliny.

As has been pointed out, the Testimonium Flavianum is problematic (to say the least). Even if authentic in every respect (which it clearly isn't), it would only be sketchy evidence that Jesus was crucified, not resurrected.

St. Jerome, the Gospels, Flew, Craig, Strobel and Aquinas may be dismissed out of hand as providing 'historical evidence'.

Boru
‘I can’t be having with this.’ - Esmeralda Weatherwax
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#12
RE: The Historical Evidence for the Resurrection of Jesus Christ.
They don't listen. Too much god-bothering to be done.
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#13
RE: The Historical Evidence for the Resurrection of Jesus Christ.
“Aside from biblical writers, no one seems to have ever heard of Jesus until some 150 years after his supposed birth. This fact occurred to some scholars in the eighteenth century and was more fully developed in the nineteenth. Thus many have come to question whether this Jesus character actually existed. We seem to have just as much evidence for the existence of Jesus as we have for Hercules or Robin Hood. Perhaps even less.” (Michael B. Paulkovich)  Read
"The world is my country; all of humanity are my brethren; and to do good deeds is my religion." (Thomas Paine)
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RE: The Historical Evidence for the Resurrection of Jesus Christ.
Robin of Locksley was probably a real character, but the tale grew in the telling.

Derail: My current wife's name is "Robin". Last year we bought a house on Sherwood Forest Drive. She's still giggles a bit.
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RE: The Historical Evidence for the Resurrection of Jesus Christ.
(June 18, 2023 at 7:55 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: Robin of Locksley was probably a real character, but the tale grew in the telling.

Derail: My current wife's name is "Robin". Last year we bought a house on Sherwood Forest Drive. She's still giggles a bit.

The same with Arthur of Britain. It’s perfectly plausible that there was a local warlord who had some limited military success against the Saxons (Riothamus is a good bet), but that doesn’t validate all the rubbish Monmouth and Mallory saddled him with.

Boru
‘I can’t be having with this.’ - Esmeralda Weatherwax
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#16
RE: The Historical Evidence for the Resurrection of Jesus Christ.
Hoomans need heroes to rescue the from mundane minutiae that is their insignificant existence.
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RE: The Historical Evidence for the Resurrection of Jesus Christ.
(June 18, 2023 at 6:40 pm)no one Wrote: Hoomans need heroes to rescue the from mundane minutiae that is their insignificant existence.
They could start by being their own heroes. Read
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RE: The Historical Evidence for the Resurrection of Jesus Christ.
That takes work. Effort. Backbone.

It's easier to dream up the hero, and allow them to rid the world of the evils I deem
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#19
RE: The Historical Evidence for the Resurrection of Jesus Christ.
Nishant, people don't come back from the dead. Grow the fuck up, already.
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RE: The Historical Evidence for the Resurrection of Jesus Christ.
(June 18, 2023 at 3:08 am)Nishant Xavier Wrote: blah blah blah

Why should I respond to a wall of text about what is clearly a bullshit story? Be succinct. I don't have time for stupid shit and will not make an exception for yours.

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