A Rebellious People

[h4ym4n]

I don't have any imaginary enemies.

Your monster god kills babies 

Can I get an amen?

Atheists are the ones who support abortion, so really if you're calling God a monster for killing the babies you yourselves want to be murdered then at that point you're just projecting. and you'll actually find God abhors Child Sacrifice, unlike you.

Doesn’t abortion send the souls of unborn babies right to jesus in heaven?

No judgment

No chance god creating you gay then punishing you for it

No chance god creating you a nonbeliever then punishing you for it

No chance god giving you a painful death from cancer or any other painful thing it created

No chance god starving you. It’s a shame god shut down the manna from heaven factory along time ago


If all this god stuff is real then being aborted doesn’t sound that awful

[Deesse23]

A women's sexual freedom is totally separate from her reproductive freedom. She has every right to have sex and control whether or not she remains pregnant. Your opinion is outright draconian. Nope if god sits back and does nothing and babies die then he is as guilty as guilty can be also. Also, no acts justify Noah's flood. There is no one to blame but god he cannot be in charge of everything and in control of everything and responsible for the state of everything and bare no blame. You can't have it both ways.

It is not actually, a women's sexual promiscuity solely determines whether or not she will have an abortion, a right that should not be given to her. That we should give mothers the option to kill their own children to avoid the responsibility of the product of their previous intercourse because they sought the pleasures of the flesh, it was the same in the Ancient days as it is today, prostitutes would throw their babies in cisterns in infanticide because sex was their profession. Sowing according to the Flesh reaped death 2,000 years ago just as much as it reaps death today. I ask you how often does a married couple, who sow according to the Spirit have abortions? You would rather allow one the ability to kill an innocent human being rather than take a shred, no an INKLING of responsibility for their own actions? What kind of world do you believe to be one free from Sin and Vice? One where a mother who should be known as a kind nurturing woman, should be turned into nothing more than a depraved whore who would take the life of her own child to get rid of the trace of her shamefulness?

And don't you dare bring up the 'incidents of rape' we are not talking about them, the Laws of Nature Ordained by God were set in order since before time began, those who are in the unfortunate way of planetary or interstellar phenomenon happened just to be in the wrong spot at the wrong time. Life is a chance you take on yourself to provide a future for those who will come after you, and if I was raising a child sir, I would want God to reflect myself, a loving Father, that way when I am gone my child may know my Spirit is always guiding him after I and God become united as all do when they perish.

God forbid it should ever be deemed acceptable that a mother should take the life of her child. Yet this is what you advocate.

Comparing modern women who like to keep their bodily autonomy to (ancient) prostitutes.....you are a particualry repugnant pice of shit, arent you?
And its not up to pices of shit like you to decide if we talk about rape in thi scontext, mkay?

God ...a loving Father

Since we are talking about infanticide: Psalm 137:9
So how about YOU shut the fuck up and listen when some civilized people try to talk sense into your fecies filled brain ?

[The Grand Nudger]

‘The priest shall then write these curses on a scroll, and he shall (p)wash them off into the water of bitterness. 24 Then he shall make the woman drink the water of bitterness that brings a curse, so that the water which brings a curse will go into her (q)and cause bitterness. 25 The priest shall take the grain offering of jealousy from the woman’s hand, and he shall wave the grain offering before the Lord and bring it to the altar; 26 and the priest shall take a handful of the grain offering as its memorial offering and offer it up in smoke on the altar, and afterward he shall make the woman drink the water. 27 When he has made her drink the water, then it shall come about, if she has defiled herself and has been unfaithful to her husband, that the water which brings a curse will go into her ®and cause bitterness, and her abdomen will swell and her thigh will (s)waste away, and the woman will become a curse among her people. 28 But if the woman has not defiled herself and is clean, she will then be free and conceive (t)children.
29 ‘This is the law of jealousy: when a wife, being under the authority of her husband, goes astray and defiles herself, 30 or when a spirit of jealousy comes over a man and he is jealous of his wife, he shall then make the woman stand before the Lord, and the priest shall apply all this law to her. 31 Moreover, the man will be free from (u)guilt, but that woman shall bear her (v)guilt.’”

Numbers 5.

[Authari]

Alright lets talk about it then, if you executed all the rapists you wouldn't really have a problem with rape to much to concern yourself over, but instead you allow evil to fester and thrive among themselves. Little filthy demons that prey on the innocence of women and children.

That's not how it works in your big book of myths, though.

A man who rapes a woman needs to pay her father a few shekels.

Then there's the, "slaughter women who have known men, and keep the virgins for yourself" bullshit.

It is not actually, a women's sexual promiscuity solely determines whether or not she will have an abortion, a right that should not be given to her. That we should give mothers the option to kill their own children to avoid the responsibility of the product of their previous intercourse because they sought the pleasures of the flesh, it was the same in the Ancient days as it is today, prostitutes would throw their babies in cisterns in infanticide because sex was their profession. Sowing according to the Flesh reaped death 2,000 years ago just as much as it reaps death today. I ask you how often does a married couple, who sow according to the Spirit have abortions? You would rather allow one the ability to kill an innocent human being rather than take a shred, no an INKLING of responsibility for their own actions? What kind of world do you believe to be one free from Sin and Vice? One where a mother who should be known as a kind nurturing woman, should be turned into nothing more than a depraved whore who would take the life of her own child to get rid of the trace of her shamefulness?

And don't you dare bring up the 'incidents of rape' we are not talking about them, the Laws of Nature Ordained by God were set in order since before time began, those who are in the unfortunate way of planetary or interstellar phenomenon happened just to be in the wrong spot at the wrong time. Life is a chance you take on yourself to provide a future for those who will come after you, and if I was raising a child sir, I would want God to reflect myself, a loving Father, that way when I am gone my child may know my Spirit is always guiding him after I and God become united as all do when they perish.

God forbid it should ever be deemed acceptable that a mother should take the life of her child. Yet this is what you advocate.

Comparing modern women who like to keep their bodily autonomy to (ancient) prostitutes.....you are a particualry repugnant pice of shit, arent you?
And its not up to pices of shit like you to decide if we talk about rape in thi scontext, mkay?

God ...a loving Father

Since we are talking about infanticide: Psalm 137:9
So how about YOU shut the fuck up and listen when some civilized people try to talk sense into your fecies filled brain ?

Oh! Feisty aren't we? Did I hit a nerve because you can't find a logical argument against what I said so you resort automatically to name calling. Or is that just how you normally greet people who you disagree with?

Also Psalm 137 is speaking about retaliation for what happened in Jerusalem.

I can sense how civilized you think yourself to be when you brutally rip an unborn child from their mothers womb. Glad you like to consider that civilized. Oh and then letting the rapists and pedophiles live to allow them to commit the same crime twice and cause more suffering. Thank God we're civilized though.

[The Grand Nudger]

The whole abortion bit was, in living memory, mocked by other christians as "the catholic issue" - until christians collectively realized that their demographic and cultural majority was threatened. The god of magic book is not only fine with abortions, it commands them whenever a husband is so much as suspicious. You may have an issue with it, plenty of christians suddenly do - except for their own abortions, ofc, which are always moral. God, not so much. Just one of the many ways gods people are out of step with the man himself.

As for being civilized...you must mean compared to the alternatives? That abortion is more civilized than forced birthing. That incarceration is more civilized than execution.

Well....yeah? Do you think we have god to thank for being more civilized like that, or do you think he'd want us strapping women to gurneys and executing suspected sex crimers in the streets?

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

That's not how it works in your big book of myths, though.

A man who rapes a woman needs to pay her father a few shekels.

Then there's the, "slaughter women who have known men, and keep the virgins for yourself" bullshit.

Comparing modern women who like to keep their bodily autonomy to (ancient) prostitutes.....you are a particualry repugnant pice of shit, arent you?
And its not up to pices of shit like you to decide if we talk about rape in thi scontext, mkay?


Since we are talking about infanticide: Psalm 137:9
So how about YOU shut the fuck up and listen when some civilized people try to talk sense into your fecies filled brain ?

Oh! Feisty aren't we? Did I hit a nerve because you can't find a logical argument against what I said so you resort automatically to name calling. Or is that just how you normally greet people who you disagree with?

Also Psalm 137 is speaking about retaliation for what happened in Jerusalem.

I can sense how civilized you think yourself to be when you brutally rip an unborn child from their mothers womb. Glad you like to consider that civilized. Oh and then letting the rapists and pedophiles live to allow them to commit the same crime twice and cause more suffering. Thank God we're civilized though.

You appear to be a thoroughly miserable person. Have you considered therapy?

Boru

[LadyForCamus]

Truly what is written in the Bible about Israel being a rebellious people holds true with your own hearts, all of you atheists are rebelling against the Authority of God, because you dislike his dominion. You judge God based on what people have written about him, using arguments like flooding the world and the likes to denote God's maniacal rule, yet the Laws in which the Ancient Israelites followed preserved order and holiness. How many of you I wonder have fallen to the temptation of the flesh and because you ate from the Fruit of the Tree of Knowledge thought yourself to be superior to God, after all, who should judge you based on who you have sex with? Its the 21st century after all and you feel entitled to do it with as many people as you want or whoever you want to with. This likely is but one reason of many that you rebel so brazenly, in the place of God you have Science, yet Science has done little to explain our own sentience let alone the seemingly sentient nature of energy. Truly if you followed Science you would question how sentience is even possible, it should not be that a complex organism is capable of logical deduction there stands no reason for anything at all in the universe to exist but it does, and you exist, WE EXIST because GOD exists.

You have made God your enemy and therefore detest Love itself for God is Love. Surely if you did not succumb to corruption of the heart you would treat the theists on this forum with more compassion, the same compassion and humanitarianism which you profess to hold dear to your heart, but instead you detest them for holding fast to the Faith which you lost so long ago. You can not bear to think that someone can LOGICALLY believe in a God because that doesn't sit well with you, because if someone could use Logic to prove God existed, as I did it would mean you were neither being logical nor a critical thinker but instead were driven by your emotions, and that is what lead to your apostasy was viewing God as an uncaring despot rather than a Loving Father.

You ask what God would sacrifice his own son and make him suffer such? A God who loved his Son, because with the Sacrifice of Jesus Christ who is John the Baptist risen from the dead in Spirit, the Gentiles were called to become Sons and Daughters of God and unite their hearts in Faith and Love. What unites your hearts my poor miserable atheist friends?

Stopped reading after, “you atheists”.

*yawn*

[brewer]

@Authari Hey dick head, why didn't you respond to my post? I know you read it.

[Deesse23]

Oh! Feisty aren't we? Did I hit a nerve because you can't find a logical argument...

Also Psalm 137 is speaking about retaliation for what happened in Jerusalem.

.....says the guy who just argues infanticide is actually ok....as long as its done in retaliation ...by followers of christ.
Listen to yourself: Infanticide is the worst thing ever, done by ancient prositutes, and modern day women. Its BABY killing. Its unacceptable......well, its acceptable in retaliation, commanded by your god, done by Jews.
Thats why i need no argument. I just need you to keep talking and expose yourself and your terrible inhumane beliefs

against what I said so you resort automatically to name calling. Or is that just how you normally greet people who you disagree with?

...and thats why i keep calling a spade a spade, and a moral monster a moral monster. If you dont like being called a pos, stop being one!
Its that simple: Stop surrendering your humanity on the altar of your cruel, immoral religion. Just.fucking.stop

I can sense how civilized you think yourself to be when you brutally rip an unborn child from their mothers womb.

...but its ok as long as god commands it and righteous people like jews...or you, do it!. Right?
Just keep talking, keep digging, i wont take away your shovel. Keep going and making it paninfully clear to every reader, what level of hypocrite you are.

Glad you like to consider that civilized. Oh and then letting the rapists and pedophiles live to allow them to commit the same crime twice and cause more suffering. Thank God we're civilized though.

See thats the difference between you and me. I call you out for the ass you ARE, showing the evidence YOU present yourself. Thank you again for showing what a terrible person you allow religion to make you. You on the other hand, you are whatabouting (i presume because YOU have no argument as shown in your post), and you just made a strawman (when and where did i say something about rapists?)

Pedophiles? Where and when did anyone talk about pedophiles? Did you, by accident mean homosexuals? In this case i would have to assume that on top of everything else you are also a homophobic flavoured piece of shit. But i really hope thats not the case. Who on earth would be such a triple terrible person to be such a hyporite like you and a homophobe, thats almost inconceivable.....

[Authari]

Actually in a lot of States here in America there is no such right for a woman to have an abortion...

Also the unborn child is not 'her body' that she gets to decide to do with as she wishes, it comes with its own set of organs and is capable of recognizing their mother's voice, yet you would have an unborn child that is capable of recognizing his mother's voice be thrown to the wolves with the abortion that many places allow where it is legal to have an abortion even a day before the expected mother was due to deliver. So to me more about how this individual being who is capable of recognizing his mother's voice does not have the protected rights of their person and their liberty?

It is not a 'child' until surviving the birth process. Until then (or at the very most surviving until 22 weeks and even then requiring extreme medical assistence), it is not a human life.

Is this a human life?

Warning, graphic fetal pathology. Open at your own risk.

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https://webpath.med.utah.edu/PEDHTML/PED006.html
https://webpath.med.utah.edu/PEDHTML/PED032.html
https://webpath.med.utah.edu/PEDHTML/PED026.html

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And these are a very few examples.

Why does your omnipotent god allow this? Get it yet, either it (or your feeble  concept) is a monster or does not exist. Or............ maybe you're the monster.

@Authari Hey dick head, why didn't you respond to my post? I know you read it.

Because you attribute the reality of nature to the bidding of God that's why I didn't respond to it, you also consider unborn children to be objects and not human, though that is exactly what they grow up to become, can something change from some other creature into a human or was it always human to begin with? Your degradation of what constitutes a human being is similar to how the white land owners who framed the constitution didn't consider black people to be human either but rather objects. It is a draconian line of thought truly, and yet people here call it civilized and humane. Anything to avoid complicity in murder.

Abortion is effectively saying to people, do what you want and don't worry about the consequences. Shouldn't we instead raise our children to be responsible adults instead? And if you disagree with that thought then I wish you luck when you get old and your children who have had six abortions don't want to take care of you in your old age because you never taught them to be responsible with their lives.

Empathy is this, a little life starts in the womb of a mother who can not afford the financial burden of having kids. Yet instead of choosing abortion she carries the child to term and gives it up to an adoption agency.