When were the Gospels Written? The External and Internal Evidence.

[Angrboda]

Xavier:

I don't have a lot to say that is more on the matter, but I do have one thing. You suggest that desires operate as I have suggested in the manner I have outlined only with respect to worldly desires. However, it appears to be just speculation that there is or can be some other kind of desire. It's possible that there can be another kind of desire, but it's possible that there cannot be any other kind and the 'worldly' tag is an empty qualifier that adds nothing, that distinguishes nothing. It seems little more than inventing a fictional hypothetical because one is backed into a corner. And there doesn't appear to be any way you could have any evidence that there even could be any other kind of desire. That's not necessarily to dispute it other than to suggest it is unknowable. If heaven is so foreign to us that it is unknowable, what does it mean to say we will be happy? I know what happy in the now is, but that's not what happy in the then is. Why should I want something that I have no inkling of what it would be. Regardless, I believe it was Plato in the appendix to the Phaedrus who argued that what is in the thinking of gods is not knowable to the thinking of men, and vice versa, what is in the thinking of men is unknowable to the gods. Your speculation is similar and so it's impossible to say whether this "happiness" which you refer to in heaven is even desirable, as it is no longer happiness as such, but just something analogous to happiness to which you are attaching the word for lack of a better name. For all you know, this "happiness" is more akin to horror, or fear, or shame, or nothingness. It's simply unknowable. So on what basis should I desire it?

[Bucky Ball]

Just passing through. Will address the objections in time. This caught my eye:

Bucky, quoting the Catechism:

[846] He himself explicitly asserted the necessity of faith and Baptism, and thereby affirmed at the same time the necessity of the Church which men enter through Baptism as through a door. Hence they could not be saved who, knowing that the Catholic Church was founded as necessary by God through Christ, would refuse either to enter it or to remain in it.

847 This affirmation is not aimed at those who, through no fault of their own, do not know Christ and his Church:
Those who, through no fault of their own, do not know the Gospel of Christ or his Church, but who nevertheless seek God with a sincere heart, and, moved by grace, try in their actions to do his will as they know it through the dictates of their conscience - those too may achieve eternal salvation.

I've quoted the same thing you did, just changed the bolding. Now, read it again. Yes, if one does not know, there is no sin involved, Christ said that too, and that is true e.g. of those who've never heard the Gospel of Christ; St. James says this too in Holy Scripture, that once one does know what is right, e.g. to receive Baptism or Holy Communion, but does not, then it is a sin.

You are a judgmental fool ... Now [expletive deleted] off.

Lol, the irony. Rude Expletives, and silliness, combined with an alleged non-judgmental attitude. Take the beam out of thine own eye, friend. I am not judgmental, or at least I strive not to be. I simply proclaimed the same Truth Jesus Christ taught, that once one knows one ought to be Baptized, and has had the Possibility of receiving that Sacrament, it becomes necessary for Salvation. The CCC says this too, if you've really read it. Yes, of course, those who have never heard the Gospel, or are ignorant of it through no fault of their own, are guilty of no sin in that regard. Every Catholic knows this. They may, however, be guilty of other mortal sins, like adultery or hatred, blaspheming and cussing like you did above etc. And those sins are not taken away except by grace through faith, and they are washed away completely only in Holy Baptism. Holy Baptism is the Cure or Vaccine not just for original sin, as for babies, but also for all personal mortal sins, as for all adults who receive the Sacrament.

And Christ Himself taught the necessity of Holy Communion for Salvation in John 6, when He said we must receive His Body and His Blood, i.e. the Sacrament of the Holy Eucharist, in order to gain Eternal Life and go to Heaven. IF we don't know, we're exempted. Once we do know, we're not.

St. John Chrysostom, (347-407), Patriarch of Constantinople, and Doctor of the Church, tells us: "Zeal for the salvation of souls is of so great a merit before God, that to give up all our goods to the poor, or to spend our whole life in the exercises of all sorts of austerities cannot equal the merit of it. There is no service more agreeable to God than this one. To employ one's life in this blessed labor is more pleasing to the Divine Majesty than to suffer martyrdom. Would you not feel happy if you could spend large sums of money in corporal works of mercy? But know that he who labors for the salvation of souls does far more; nay, the zeal of souls is of far greater merit before God . . . than the working of miracles." I take it you once were Catholic. Perhaps you should re-learn your Catholic Faith from the ground up, starting with Scripture/Fathers.

In Christ,
Xavier.

Total bullshit. 
1. You don't know he said anything. You don't even know he existed. Prove both. 
2. You can change the bolding, but it does not change the meaning of 847. 
OBVIOUSLY if they don't believe or know or care ANYTHING about your stupid Roman Church, 847 applies. 
Get your head out of your ass.  

We get you enjoy the damnation of others, as you think yourself superior. What a sicko.

BTW Jesus never said anything about faith or baptism.
In fact he specifically denied both.
Jesus was a Jew. "till heaven and earth pass away, not one jot or one tittle shall in any wise pass from the law till all be fulfilled". Did the Jews require baptism ? LOL
This was the Jewish law. When the young man in Matthew asked him what he had to do to get into heaven, did he say "join my church" ?
No. "If thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments” (Matt. 19:17). “If ye love me, keep my commandments” (John 14:15)."
Absolutely nothing about joining the ranks of the pedophiles in the Roman Church.

BTW, with respect to all your pathetic moralizing, according to your church there are three requirements for serious (mortal) sin. God alone knows the answer to all three. You nor anyone else, can say what God alone knows. Therefore (among many other things) you cannot claim that abortion is serious sin.

[LinuxGal]

Premise II: 2 Corinthians contains a reference to the Gospel of Luke as already having been written.

2 Cor 8:18 "And we have sent with him the brother, whose praise is in the gospel throughout all the churches;"

Now, anyone who knows even the slightest thing about Church History, whether he himself is Christian or Atheist, knows that only one companion of Paul, namely St. Luke, wrote a Gospel. This is also evident from the Book of Acts, written like Luke to Theophilus, and which contains the First Person Plural in various places, where the Author and Paul travelled together. It therefore is clear Paul is referring to Luke's Gospel in this place.

Only seven books in the NT were written by someone who really was who he claimed to be (Romans, 1 & 2 Corinthians, Philippians, Philemon, Galatians, and 1 Thessalonians).
Revelation was written by "a" John but not the one who hung out with Jesus, or even the one, whatever his name was, who wrote the gospel of John. We know this because the Greek is shittier than the gospel and also because he didn't recognize Jesus when he showed up.

Rev. 1:13 And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle.

Everything else in the Bible, from Genesis to Jude, is an outright forgery.  Go read you some Bart Ehrman. So no, Paul's buddy Luke didn't write "Luke".  The thing was slapped together with another scroll that became the book of Acts and the author plagiarized stuff Flavius Josephus wrote in 93 CE.