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RE: My Revelation
July 18, 2023 at 3:09 pm
Quote:Well, some of us are would be happy to live and let live but we are not the ones cheating high school girls out of sport scholarships and sterilizing minors.
Neither of those things are occurring. Transwomen are women and they have as many rights to those sports scholarships as CIS women do and no one ones sterilizing minors at least not legally.
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RE: My Revelation
July 18, 2023 at 3:11 pm
(July 18, 2023 at 2:16 pm)Deesse23 Wrote: (July 18, 2023 at 1:58 pm)Lek Wrote: He doesn't tell us to kill gays. I know the old testament law. You don't need to refresh me.
What is your reading of Leviticus 20:13 then? Pretty clear. He's telling the Israelites to put practicing homosexual men to death. Why? I'm don't know. I'm not under the old testament law and I certainly don't want to execute homosexuals for sleeping together. I don't even want to make it illegal. We can't legislate morality.
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RE: My Revelation
July 18, 2023 at 3:12 pm
(July 18, 2023 at 2:21 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: (July 18, 2023 at 1:56 pm)Lek Wrote: It's allegory. Okay, I'm done. We tend to perceive those who disagree with us as enemies.
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RE: My Revelation
July 18, 2023 at 3:16 pm
Quote:Pretty clear. He's telling the Israelites to put practicing homosexual men to death. Why? I'm don't know. I'm not under the old testament law and I certainly don't want to execute homosexuals for sleeping together. I don't even want to make it illegal. We can't legislate morality.
Nowhere in the new testament is this contradicted nor is it eclusivily referring to Israelites, And thank you for providing more proof you pick and choose in terms of the bible.
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RE: My Revelation
July 18, 2023 at 3:17 pm
Quote:We tend to perceive those who disagree with us as enemies.
You might but that's you 
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RE: My Revelation
July 18, 2023 at 3:17 pm
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RE: My Revelation
July 18, 2023 at 3:26 pm
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(July 18, 2023 at 3:11 pm)Lek Wrote: (July 18, 2023 at 2:16 pm)Deesse23 Wrote: What is your reading of Leviticus 20:13 then?
Pretty clear. He's telling the Israelites to put practicing homosexual men to death. Why? I'm don't know. I'm not under the old testament law and I certainly don't want to execute homosexuals for sleeping together. I don't even want to make it illegal. We can't legislate morality.
But you are under *some* of the OT law, right.
In Matthew, Jesus told the young man who asked him what he had to do to gain eternal life.
"Keep the commandments".
He also never said anything about a "new law" or new covenant.
In fact he specifically said there would be no new covenant.
"Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.
For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished."
Matthew 5:17-18 Paul made up the "new covenant".
You cherry pick what you want from the OT, and what you don't.
There were no "homosexuals" in the OT. The concept (of orientation) didn't arise until the 19th Century.
What you're doing has a name. You're committing "Presentism". It's a "thing" in History.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presentism..._analysis)
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RE: My Revelation
July 18, 2023 at 3:30 pm
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(July 18, 2023 at 3:11 pm)Lek Wrote: (July 18, 2023 at 2:16 pm)Deesse23 Wrote: What is your reading of Leviticus 20:13 then? Pretty clear. He's telling the Israelites to put practicing homosexual men to death. Why? I'm don't know. I'm not under the old testament law and I certainly don't want to execute homosexuals for sleeping together. I don't even want to make it illegal. We can't legislate morality.
So God changed his mind about killing f**gots?
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RE: My Revelation
July 18, 2023 at 3:40 pm
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(July 18, 2023 at 3:16 pm)Helios Wrote: Quote:Pretty clear. He's telling the Israelites to put practicing homosexual men to death. Why? I'm don't know. I'm not under the old testament law and I certainly don't want to execute homosexuals for sleeping together. I don't even want to make it illegal. We can't legislate morality.
Nowhere in the new testament is this contradicted nor is it eclusivily referring to Israelites, And thank you for providing more proof you pick and choose in terms of the bible. The Jewish law was specifically for the Israelites. Paul made it clear in Romans that we are no longer under the old Jewish law.
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RE: My Revelation
July 18, 2023 at 3:42 pm
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(July 18, 2023 at 3:30 pm)Angrboda Wrote: (July 18, 2023 at 3:11 pm)Lek Wrote: Pretty clear. He's telling the Israelites to put practicing homosexual men to death. Why? I'm don't know. I'm not under the old testament law and I certainly don't want to execute homosexuals for sleeping together. I don't even want to make it illegal. We can't legislate morality.
So God changed his mind about killing f**gots? I wasn't there at the time.
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