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RE: What has Christianity truly contributed to humanity
July 26, 2023 at 12:23 am
Same as Scientology which is nothing.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: What has Christianity truly contributed to humanity
July 26, 2023 at 12:40 am
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RE: What has Christianity truly contributed to humanity
July 26, 2023 at 12:46 am
(July 25, 2023 at 11:58 pm)Nishant Xavier Wrote: Abolition of Infanticide and Slavery, Establishment of Charities and Hospitals at a rate unprecedented in the ancient pagan world (Roman Empire) and much more.
I recommend 2 Great Books (1) How Christianity changed the world by Prof Alvin Schmidt
(2) How the Catholic Church built Western Civilization by Professor Thomas Woods...
Why would I waste time or money on those? I'll stick with Homer and Plato and Sophocles (and Horace, Murakami, Pratchett, Gaiman, and, oh, several thousand other books I'd rather read instead).
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RE: What has Christianity truly contributed to humanity
July 26, 2023 at 12:49 am
(July 26, 2023 at 12:46 am)Astreja Wrote: (July 25, 2023 at 11:58 pm)Nishant Xavier Wrote: Abolition of Infanticide and Slavery, Establishment of Charities and Hospitals at a rate unprecedented in the ancient pagan world (Roman Empire) and much more.
I recommend 2 Great Books (1) How Christianity changed the world by Prof Alvin Schmidt
(2) How the Catholic Church built Western Civilization by Professor Thomas Woods...
Why would I waste time or money on those? I'll stick with Homer and Plato and Sophocles (and Horace, Murakami, Pratchett, Gaiman, and, oh, several thousand other books I'd rather read instead).
You had me at Pratchett.
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RE: What has Christianity truly contributed to humanity
July 26, 2023 at 12:58 am
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Quote:Well. Pls read the books and then decide for yourself, Valkyrie. There's a wealth of historical information in them one would hardly find anywhere else imo. All well documented with unimpeachable historical references to other historians.
Nope it's propaganda written by hacks and isn't the paper it's printed on
Quote:As for Abolition and Slavery, Prez. Lincoln and William Wilberforce, for e.g. as well as Anti-Slavery Crusader David Livingstone, were the Accomplished Abolitionists of their time, and they were devout Christians. Meanwhile, Darwin, Marx, Sanger and Nietzche were all Vicious White Racists. They lacked Gospel Values, the first and foremost of which is to Love your neighbor as yourself, as Jesus Christ taught. He also showed, by His Good Samaritan Parable, that that moral obligation to Love one's Neighbor transcends the boundaries of Race and Religion. That Dr. Martin Luther King was both a Christian Pastor and one of the greatest Anti-Racists of all time is well known. So were many Popes, Ven. Archbishop Fulton Sheen, Rev. Billy Graham, Rev. Reinhard Bonnke, who is called "the Billy Graham of Africa", had Great Love for the African People etc. What the world needs is Love, and that's what Jesus Christ commands of all, especially His own disciples.
We've been over this and you soundly lost this debate.
Quote:As for Science and Charity, the Great Medieval Universities of Catholic Christian Europe etc, pls see this in the quote box below:
Irrelevant science neither needed christianity and would have flourished without it
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RE: What has Christianity truly contributed to humanity
July 26, 2023 at 1:03 am
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Nope, I soundly won it. Look at some of you Atheists declaring victory and thinking that means you won just by doing so, lol. Sorry, you need actual arguments for that: (1) Your famous Atheists like Darwin and Marx were Vicious Racists, while our (2) Devout Christians like Lincoln and Wilberforce were Wonderful Abolitionists, therefore we win, Christianity 100 - Atheism 0.
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RE: What has Christianity truly contributed to humanity
July 26, 2023 at 1:07 am
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"Change was inevitable"
Nemo sicut deus debet esse!
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RE: What has Christianity truly contributed to humanity
July 26, 2023 at 1:10 am
(July 26, 2023 at 1:03 am)Nishant Xavier Wrote: while our (2) Devout Christians like Lincoln and Wilberforce were Wonderful Abolitionists, therefore we win, Christianity 100 - Atheism 0.
Lincoln was not a devout Christian. Plus, the abolitionist movement was against Christians who held slaves and not against atheists.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: What has Christianity truly contributed to humanity
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RE: What has Christianity truly contributed to humanity
July 26, 2023 at 1:18 am
That does not make him devout Christian
Quote:Abraham Lincoln grew up in a highly religious Baptist family. He never joined any Church, and was a skeptic as a young man and sometimes ridiculed revivalists. He frequently referred to God and had a deep knowledge of the Bible, often quoting it. Lincoln attended Protestant church services with his wife and children. "Especially after the death of his young son Willie in 1862, Lincoln moved away from his earlier religious skepticism."[1] Some argue that Lincoln was neither a Christian believer nor a secular freethinker.[2]
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religiou...am_Lincoln
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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