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Is atheism foolish?
RE: Is atheism foolish?
(August 21, 2023 at 7:29 am)FrustratedFool Wrote:
(August 21, 2023 at 7:27 am)MarcusA Wrote: If God is real, we're all in trouble.

Depends on which God.

What? You don't want to be eaten first?
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RE: Is atheism foolish?
In heaven, all the interesting people are missing. - Nietzsche
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RE: Is atheism foolish?
(August 21, 2023 at 7:34 am)MarcusA Wrote: In heaven, all the interesting people are missing. - Nietzsche

Depends which heaven.
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RE: Is atheism foolish?
(August 21, 2023 at 7:41 am)FrustratedFool Wrote:
(August 21, 2023 at 7:34 am)MarcusA Wrote: In heaven, all the interesting people are missing. - Nietzsche

Depends which heaven.

You've got me. I can't speak, what do I know of heaven?
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RE: Is atheism foolish?
You can speak, it's just a matter of logical thinking.

If heaven is a space which include all people then by logical necessity it would have to contain all the interesting people too. Therefore, if universalism is true (everyone goes to heaven) then Nietzche's statement was false. Of course, he was just being rhetorical and only referencing the mainstream xtian conception of heaven, but that's why I said 'depends'.
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RE: Is atheism foolish?
If Hitler ain't in hell, I don't want to go to heaven.
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RE: Is atheism foolish?
(August 21, 2023 at 8:36 am)MarcusA Wrote: If Hitler ain't in hell, I don't want to go to heaven.

Why?
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RE: Is atheism foolish?
(August 21, 2023 at 8:36 am)MarcusA Wrote: If Hitler ain't in hell, I don't want to go to heaven.

Hitler is part of gods plan

Romans 13
New International Version
Submission to Governing Authorities
13 Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. Consequently, whoever rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves. 

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RE: Is atheism foolish?
(August 21, 2023 at 8:36 am)MarcusA Wrote: If Hitler ain't in hell, I don't want to go to heaven.

He repented his sins in his last moments. Had his fun and doesn't have to pay. Christian logic is ludicrous.
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RE: Is atheism foolish?
(August 21, 2023 at 9:17 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote:
(August 21, 2023 at 8:36 am)MarcusA Wrote: If Hitler ain't in hell, I don't want to go to heaven.

He repented his sins in his last moments. Had his fun and doesn't have to pay. Christian logic is ludicrous.

I don't see how that would be ludicrous except in the sense of emotional repugnance.

What is the point of punishment except to be either a deterrent or to change character and behaviour? If the event is past and there could be no deterrent, and if the person's character and behviour changed without need of suffering, then what purpose would there be to violence except to appease the emotions of others?
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