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[Serious] Opinions on paganism?
#21
RE: Opinions on paganism?
I am not into paganism. I am into humanism. I couldn't give a fig where the moon is at at any particular moment.
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#22
RE: Opinions on paganism?
It's not too much of a stretch to call me an atheopagan. I like the stories and symbolism from world mythologies, and see gods as archetypes that are potentially inspiring. I also observe some Old Norse festivals like Yule.
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#23
RE: Opinions on paganism?
Most pagans (that I know) are in it for the experience of getting closer to nature, not for any supernatural stuff. That's fine by me.
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#24
RE: Opinions on paganism?
(August 17, 2023 at 1:43 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote:
(August 17, 2023 at 1:39 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Some varieties of paganism don’t require interventionist supernatural forces, but view the non-natural world as existing side-by-side with the natural one (the pages of a book analogy). In these views, supernatural forces are not interventionist, but immanent.

Even more to the point, nature intervenes, and the sacred is immanent.  Gods, even for those who believe in them, tend not to be supernatural.  A god isn't over nature or in nature and beyond nature.  It -is- nature.  When a god blows, that's the wind at work.

If we detect anything that is super natural the "super-" prefix instantly drops away and it is added to the set of natural things.

In the same way, if we detect something in a parallel universe the "parallel" cancels out and it is instantly considered part of this universe.
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#25
RE: Opinions on paganism?
(August 17, 2023 at 8:15 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: To some extent, and especially at that time, they were interchangeable.  A single publisher, Llewellyn, created that impression and market.  They had a ready made stable of authors.  Scott Cunningham, Silver Ravenwolf.  Raymond fucking Buckland.  If you wanted a side hustle worth serious coin, wiccan detritus on etsy goes for many times more than identical products...on etsy.

If you can sell mint to kroger or some lovesick teenager trying to fashion a love charm, pick the second option.

I bought a book many years ago that discussed various symbolic pictures and constructions. Pagan, tarot, etc. Just went and looked, can't find it. I bought it because I could see a ready market for the sort of suckers who buy what I could make and sell. But at the bottom of my being, I couldn't see fleecing people for their stupid beliefs. #thuspoor
If you get to thinking you’re a person of some influence, try ordering somebody else’s dog around.
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#26
RE: Opinions on paganism?
(November 4, 2023 at 8:43 pm)LinuxGal Wrote:
(August 17, 2023 at 1:43 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Even more to the point, nature intervenes, and the sacred is immanent.  Gods, even for those who believe in them, tend not to be supernatural.  A god isn't over nature or in nature and beyond nature.  It -is- nature.  When a god blows, that's the wind at work.

If we detect anything that is super natural the "super-" prefix instantly drops away and it is added to the set of natural things.

In the same way, if we detect something in a parallel universe the "parallel" cancels out and it is instantly considered part of this universe.

Who is making up those non-sensical rules?
"Imagination, life is your creation"
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#27
RE: Opinions on paganism?
My opinion on Paganism is that it is benign so I don't pay attention to it. I know that Christians still persecute them like when they don't allow the celebration of Halloween.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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#28
RE: Opinions on paganism?
(November 5, 2023 at 2:15 am)Ahriman Wrote:
(November 4, 2023 at 8:43 pm)LinuxGal Wrote: If we detect anything that is super natural the "super-" prefix instantly drops away and it is added to the set of natural things.

In the same way, if we detect something in a parallel universe the "parallel" cancels out and it is instantly considered part of this universe.

Who is making up those non-sensical rules?

How can something detectable NOT be natural? 

As it says in the Bible, 'Don't call things "non-sensical" when you're too fucking stupid to understand what words mean.'

Boru
‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson
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#29
RE: Opinions on paganism?
(November 5, 2023 at 2:32 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: My opinion on Paganism is that it is benign so I don't pay attention to it. I know that Christians still persecute them like when they don't allow the celebration of Halloween.

Always thought that was rather silly of Christians - getting all in a twist when non-Christians celebrate a Christian holiday.

Boru
‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson
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#30
RE: Opinions on paganism?
(November 5, 2023 at 4:50 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(November 5, 2023 at 2:15 am)Ahriman Wrote: Who is making up those non-sensical rules?

How can something detectable NOT be natural? 

As it says in the Bible, 'Don't call things "non-sensical" when you're too fucking stupid to understand what words mean.'

Amen brother Boru amen and amen!

Romans 8:24 For we are saved by hope: but hope that is seen is not hope: for what a man seeth, why doth he yet hope for?
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