Does reading a lot of Wikipedia give people a wrong idea how science works?

[arewethereyet]

So says the self-proclaimed mentally unstable guy.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

Those guns are issued as part of military reserve service, and can be withdrawn at any time upon the holder showing unstable mentality. That might play a part. Additionally, I'm sure that, being military, they undergo psychological evaluation before being inducted.

That's a far cry from American nutjobs.

A question in my own turn: do you think that it's a coincidence that the most gun-saturated culture in the world also has the most gun deaths not associated with civil war?

But you need to understand that having a diagnosed mental illness is not a good predictor of being a mass shooter. Here is a left-wing journal admitting that: https://www.psychiatrictimes.com/view/mo...ntally-ill

Not a good predictor of being a mass shooter, but (depending on the illness) it’s an excellent predictor of shooting someone.

Boru

[Thumpalumpacus]

Those guns are issued as part of military reserve service, and can be withdrawn at any time upon the holder showing unstable mentality. That might play a part. Additionally, I'm sure that, being military, they undergo psychological evaluation before being inducted.

That's a far cry from American nutjobs.

A question in my own turn: do you think that it's a coincidence that the most gun-saturated culture in the world also has the most gun deaths not associated with civil war?

Sorry for not responding for a while, I was working on my Bachelor thesis.
No, I don't think it's a coincidence. I think guns as a form of self defense are common sense to people and that if I were forced to live in a high-crime area (such as much of the US), I would also get a gun.

Most of America is not high-crime.

[arewethereyet]

We have lived in this house for 17 years now. So far the most threatening thing that I have witnessed was my son's car getting egged.

Of course, it was the first night he had it and he was none too happy about it. But no one got shot.

Even though I am in Texas it's not the wild, wild west.

[Thumpalumpacus]

Those guns are issued as part of military reserve service, and can be withdrawn at any time upon the holder showing unstable mentality. That might play a part. Additionally, I'm sure that, being military, they undergo psychological evaluation before being inducted.

That's a far cry from American nutjobs.

A question in my own turn: do you think that it's a coincidence that the most gun-saturated culture in the world also has the most gun deaths not associated with civil war?

But you need to understand that having a diagnosed mental illness is not a good predictor of being a mass shooter. Here is a left-wing journal admitting that: https://www.psychiatrictimes.com/view/mo...ntally-ill

Did I imply that that was the only risk? No. But like most American gun nuts, you too are quite happy allowing the perfect be the enemy of the good. As a result of people like you, nothing will be done -- except more murders.

Thanks a lot, pal.

[The Grand Nudger]

Crazy isn't supposed to have a gun in the us primarily because of the harm that crazy with a gun may (and is much more likely to) do to themselves, rather than to others. Suicide as a consequence of depression, for example, is the single largest contributor to us gun deaths. Not by a little, by a lot.

Absolute best thing you can do for a depressed loved one is hold their guns for them, at the least. You can either carry them out then.... or you can carry them out with the poor kids crying as mommy cleans daddy off the wall. Addressing this single issue of lax enforcement (and poor mental health services) has the potential to reduce gun death in the us by half. If "addressing the poor mental health services" situation involves getting cops out of that loop, the potential for reducing gun death is even greater.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

If someone thinks that day-to-day problems (being short-changed at the grocer’s, line-jumping, being cut off in traffic, etc) are best addressed with gunplay, that should be enough of a mental health issue to prevent them from owing a firearm.

Boru

[Ravenshire]

In general, people in the UK are not allowed to have guns, our last mass school shooting was 27 years ago (Dunblane) after which the already strict gun laws were made even stricter. The USA seems to have around one every month, I know where I would feel safer.

One a month? Nah. We have them on days ending in Y. ALL days ending in Y. Some days, more than one.

@FlatAssembler, you have a very naive view of guns, their dangers, and their worth as a deterrent,

[The Valkyrie]

If someone thinks that day-to-day problems (being short-changed at the grocer’s, line-jumping, being cut off in traffic, etc) are best addressed with gunplay, that should be enough of a mental health issue to prevent them from owing a firearm.

Boru

Yeah.

Swords are better.

[Ravenshire]

If someone thinks that day-to-day problems (being short-changed at the grocer’s, line-jumping, being cut off in traffic, etc) are best addressed with gunplay, that should be enough of a mental health issue to prevent them from owing a firearm.

Boru

Yeah.

Swords are better.

They produce much more interesting spatter patterns as well.