Does reading a lot of Wikipedia give people a wrong idea how science works?

[Silver]

Nothing.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

What do you think about Israel loosening its gun control laws in response to terrorist attacks? https://youtu.be/g9fKK_9zVdg?si=_G4L07-H9qUZNfup

I think it’s a knee-jerk reaction that will have no significant impact on terrorists’ activities. I suspect that it will increase the number of accidental shootings - if you give someone a gun and say, ‘This is to protect yourself from terrorists’, they’re going to start seeing militant Islamists everywhere they look.

Boru

[The Architect Of Fate]

What do you think about Israel loosening its gun control laws in response to terrorist attacks?

Because they are reacting irrationally

[FlatAssembler]

That is like asking how high somebody's body temperature has to be before you try bloodletting. You should not try bloodletting until you have solid mechanistic evidence that it works. Similarly, you should not try banning high-tech weapons and preventing mentally ill people from owning a firearm (which is what "gun control" essentially means) before you have solid mechanistic evidence that it would do anything to decrease mass shootings.

Here’s your solid, mechanistic evidence:

-Countries with the strictest gun control measures have the lowest incidence of gun violence.

-Countries with the loosest gun control measures have the highest incidence of gun violence.

Now, get back under your bridge and wait for the goats.

Boru

You don't know what "mechanistic evidence" means, do you?

[FlatAssembler]

I’m still trying to grasp why he thinks mental illnesses, including (I presume) things like PTSD, paranoia, and antisocial personality disorder should NOT be a bar to carrying a gun.

Boru

Because people with mental illness are significantly more likely to be victims of violence. So, gun control takes the means of defence out of the hands of the victims.

[arewethereyet]

I’m still trying to grasp why he thinks mental illnesses, including (I presume) things like PTSD, paranoia, and antisocial personality disorder should NOT be a bar to carrying a gun.

Boru

Because people with mental illness are significantly more likely to be victims of violence. So, gun control takes the means of defence out of the hands of the victims.

Citation needed.

[FlatAssembler]

Because people with mental illness are significantly more likely to be victims of violence. So, gun control takes the means of defence out of the hands of the victims.

Citation needed.

The first result I got on Google: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK537064/

[arewethereyet]

That article appears to focus on the mentally ill causing violence toward others, not being victims of violence.

Try again.

[FlatAssembler]

That article appears to focus on the mentally ill causing violence toward others, not being victims of violence.

Try again.

OK, here is another one:

A recent study of criminal victimization of persons with severe mental illness showed that 8.2% were criminally victimized over a four month period, much higher than the annual rate of violent victimization of 3.1 for the general population.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

Here’s your solid, mechanistic evidence:

-Countries with the strictest gun control measures have the lowest incidence of gun violence.

-Countries with the loosest gun control measures have the highest incidence of gun violence.

Now, get back under your bridge and wait for the goats.

Boru

You don't know what "mechanistic evidence" means, do you?

I do indeed, and it precisely fits what I said above, you ignorant, reality-denying wretch.

Boru