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Militant Atheism?
RE: Militant Atheism?
(September 19, 2023 at 2:15 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: I am glad this thread finally took an interesting turn.   Great

No big thing. Hehe
RE: Militant Atheism?
(September 19, 2023 at 11:00 am)Data Wrote: Yes. It all makes sense now. Nearly everything you're told is a lie. Makes you think, huh? If providing solid evidence that what we know about the Holocaust is Soviet propaganda means I'm a Holocaust denier and anti-Semitic does providing evidence that the Bible is mythological make you a Bible denier and anti-Semitic? 

Does the term Holocaust Denier apply to the scientists and science that disproved anyone was gassed at Auschwitz by measuring the presence of gas in the alleged gas chambers?

The Holocaust is a historical fact. That you adopt conspiracy thinking makes sense given that you believe in magic sky-fairies as well.

Critical thinking is clearly not your strong suit.

As for "measuring the presence of gas in the alleged gas chambers", you clearly know little to nothing about the actual procedures at Auschwitz, Chelmno, etc. I'd suggest you do better research but quite frankly don't think you'd know your ass from third base about good research.

RE: Militant Atheism?
(September 19, 2023 at 2:44 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:
(September 19, 2023 at 11:00 am)Data Wrote: Yes. It all makes sense now. Nearly everything you're told is a lie. Makes you think, huh? If providing solid evidence that what we know about the Holocaust is Soviet propaganda means I'm a Holocaust denier and anti-Semitic does providing evidence that the Bible is mythological make you a Bible denier and anti-Semitic? 

Does the term Holocaust Denier apply to the scientists and science that disproved anyone was gassed at Auschwitz by measuring the presence of gas in the alleged gas chambers?

The Holocaust is a historical fact. That you adopt conspiracy thinking makes sense given that you believe in magic sky-fairies as well.

Critical thinking is clearly not your strong suit.

As for "measuring the presence of gas in the alleged gas chambers", you clearly know little to nothing about the actual procedures at Auschwitz, Chelmno, etc. I'd suggest you do better research but quite frankly don't think you'd know your ass from third base about good research.

Bullshit. Refute the claims I made in the link. Otherwise you have no refutation.
RE: Militant Atheism?
(September 19, 2023 at 11:16 am)Data Wrote:
(September 19, 2023 at 11:10 am)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: What gave you the impression I was objecting, that you saw the need to give me a short lecture?

It wasn't a lecture it was a response. That's what we do on forums - didn't you know?

You didn't answer my question: What gave you the impression I was objecting, that you saw the need to give me a short lecture?

Note that the portion after the comma is the subjunctive clause, and not the question.

Your observations are mundane, and treating them as ground-breaking Great Truths™ rather than banal may burnish your ego but adds nothing to my insight. I like free speech, and am happy to deliver it to you.

Now what makes you think I needed to hear your banal observations?

RE: Militant Atheism?
(September 19, 2023 at 11:37 am)Data Wrote:
(September 19, 2023 at 11:26 am)arewethereyet Wrote: Just an FYI - I agree with Boru.  Since staff is pretty thin these days...that's plenty to make a judgement call.

Not surprisingly. It's the most controversial subject I can think of. But, just to be sure, denying the historical accuracy of certain aspects of Russian wartime propaganda is okay otherwise? Ukraine, for example? And believing without question or criticism the death of a large number of Jews is only likely to be deleted in the case of the Holocaust - not the Bible? Also, is it okay to talk about the millions or other deaths caused by WWII?

The stench of concern troll is enveloping this post. You're only interested in scientific critique ... su-u-u-u-ure

RE: Militant Atheism?
(September 19, 2023 at 2:48 pm)Data Wrote:
(September 19, 2023 at 2:44 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: The Holocaust is a historical fact. That you adopt conspiracy thinking makes sense given that you believe in magic sky-fairies as well.

Critical thinking is clearly not your strong suit.

As for "measuring the presence of gas in the alleged gas chambers", you clearly know little to nothing about the actual procedures at Auschwitz, Chelmno, etc. I'd suggest you do better research but quite frankly don't think you'd know your ass from third base about good research.

Bullshit. Refute the claims I made in the link. Otherwise you have no refutation.

Brian has already indicated what he thinks about this topic, and I won't court a ban on your account; and I don't give two shits rubbed together about changing the seventeen neurons which comprise your "mind". You're a lost cause. However, your rot has largely been thoroughly debunked in the literature, and if anyone doubts that I'd suggest they read some Anne Applebaum, or PM me for other sources. Be advised, I don't conduct debate via PMs -- but I will be happy to help anyone who wants the sources given.

You, on the other hand, are a waste of time. Not only are you predecided, but you're clearly unable to assess the validity of a concept. I mean, you believe in an invisible guy who has ten special rules which if you don't follow he will punish you for all eternity ... but you believe he loves you.

So you want contrary evidence? Search it out yourself. Your agreement is nothing I value, so I won't be assed to bother.

(September 19, 2023 at 2:48 pm)Data Wrote: Bullshit. Refute the claims I made in the link. Otherwise you have no refutation.

Also -- it's your job to support your claims.

RE: Militant Atheism?
(September 19, 2023 at 2:48 pm)Data Wrote: Bullshit. Refute the claims I made in the link. Otherwise you have no refutation.



teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
RE: Militant Atheism?
(September 19, 2023 at 2:08 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote:
(September 19, 2023 at 1:53 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: And they leave the washing up for poor wee Bilbo. Uncultured bastards.

Boru

In the video the dwarves did the washing up. I seem to remember that in the book as well.

In the book, the Dwarves washed up after supper. The next morning, when Gandalf arrived, Bilbo complained that he ‘had to do the washing up for fourteen’, which was why he hadn’t dusted the mantelpiece and found the letter left by Thorin and Company.

Boru
‘I can’t be having with this.’ - Esmeralda Weatherwax
RE: Militant Atheism?
(September 19, 2023 at 2:08 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote:
(September 19, 2023 at 1:53 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: And they leave the washing up for poor wee Bilbo. Uncultured bastards.

Boru

In the video the dwarves did the washing up. I seem to remember that in the book as well.

That's pro-Dwarf, anti-Hobbit, Elf propaganda.

There's NO video evidence that the Dwarves did the dishes, and any that does has obviously been doctored!

Stop being a shill for Big(Comparatively) Dwarf!!

Playing Cluedo with my mum while I was at Uni:

"You did WHAT?  With WHO?  WHERE???"
RE: Militant Atheism?
(September 19, 2023 at 2:48 pm)Data Wrote:
(September 19, 2023 at 2:44 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: The Holocaust is a historical fact. That you adopt conspiracy thinking makes sense given that you believe in magic sky-fairies as well.

Critical thinking is clearly not your strong suit.

As for "measuring the presence of gas in the alleged gas chambers", you clearly know little to nothing about the actual procedures at Auschwitz, Chelmno, etc. I'd suggest you do better research but quite frankly don't think you'd know your ass from third base about good research.

Bullshit. Refute the claims I made in the link. Otherwise you have no refutation.

Holocaust Denial is utter bullshit.

Re-fucking-futed!!

Playing Cluedo with my mum while I was at Uni:

"You did WHAT?  With WHO?  WHERE???"



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