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Fire in Brijest - a predictable result of recycling stupidity?
#31
RE: Fire in Brijest - a predictable result of recycling stupidity?
Quote:Oddly enough, the mentor for my Bachelor thesis told me almost the same thing. I think that there are very few things that aren't opinions, but that there is a huge difference between an educated opinion and uneducated opinion. And I think the academia is trying to create the illusion of objectivity by using a sciency style.
Your opinion is completely uneducated 

Quote:I think the burden of proof here is on you. You are claiming that plastics recycling plants catching fire is rare. I point you to anecdotal evidence suggesting it is not rare (the fact that Drava International in Brijest caught fire three times in the last 10 years: in 2015, in 2016 and now). You dismiss that with no evidence at all. Sorry, you are not being scienctific here. Anecdotal evidence has more weight than a claim with no evidence at all.
Nope it's on you one plant burning down due to bad pratices is proof of nothing
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#32
RE: Fire in Brijest - a predictable result of recycling stupidity?
(October 9, 2023 at 9:26 am)FlatAssembler Wrote:
BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:Takeaways from this post: ‘assume’; ‘probably’; ‘imagine’; ‘might’. Your use of hard facts is underwhelming.
Oddly enough, the mentor for my Bachelor thesis told me almost the same thing. I think that there are very few things that aren't opinions, but that there is a huge difference between an educated opinion and uneducated opinion. And I think the academia is trying to create the illusion of objectivity by using a sciency style.
BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:And, not for nothing, your comment about North Korea could be used in a logic class, in the unit ‘How To Avoid False Equivalence’.
I think the burden of proof here is on you. You are claiming that plastics recycling plants catching fire is rare. I point you to anecdotal evidence suggesting it is not rare (the fact that Drava International in Brijest caught fire three times in the last 10 years: in 2015, in 2016 and now). You dismiss that with no evidence at all. Sorry, you are not being scienctific here. Anecdotal evidence has more weight than a claim with no evidence at all.

A quick Google search (I strongly recommend you try it) says that there were fires at about 6% of recycling plants worldwide. This is lower than the incidence of fires at meat processing plants, automobile factories, sawmills, power stations, or - shockingly - hospitals.

I was unable to find figures regarding fires at dragon hatcheries, but I suspect it’s pretty high.

Boru
‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson
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#33
RE: Fire in Brijest - a predictable result of recycling stupidity?
(October 9, 2023 at 10:31 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Couldn't help myself, had to let it hang - but for people who might actually be interested in the answer (or more generally how to answer such vapid questions)...goes like this.

NK lacks sufficient arable land or long enough growing seasons to support itself -and- is wholly reliant on imported inputs to squeeze out what little it can.  Additionally, the last great famine (cause by precisely these two factors) reduced the number and health of the current working age cohort right when they were needed and at just about the same time as the worst harvests in decades were recorded.  The government fails to adequately address this, prioritizing defense spending and clannish grift.  So there's just no universe in which the pariah state with it's mad king can avoid starvation.  They're dealing with the limits of land and labor and the regime exacerbates this problem with policies and positions that have caused a downward spiral of economic isolation which has never will never and can never facilitate a solution.

Since you're committed to your idiotic routine...I know there aren't any dragons in nk because the nkians would have eaten them all by now, if there were.

So, isn't that circular reasoning? You know North Koreans are starving because there are no dragons there to hunt them. And you know there are no dragons there because, if there were, North Koreans would have eaten them up because they are starving.
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#34
RE: Fire in Brijest - a predictable result of recycling stupidity?
Tidy, right? No loose ends.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#35
RE: Fire in Brijest - a predictable result of recycling stupidity?
(October 11, 2023 at 8:05 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Tidy, right?  No loose ends.

If you don't accept basic logic (that circular reasoning is fallacious), then you are not a person that one can discuss with.
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#36
RE: Fire in Brijest - a predictable result of recycling stupidity?
(October 11, 2023 at 11:45 am)FlatAssembler Wrote:
(October 11, 2023 at 8:05 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Tidy, right?  No loose ends.

If you don't accept basic logic (that circular reasoning is fallacious), then you are not a person that one can discuss with.

You think things don't exist just because you haven't seen them (iPhones for example) or that something isn't real because on your visit the place was closed (prison).

You wouldn't know logic if it slapped you upside the head.

Yeah, I know, what's that mean?
  
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#37
RE: Fire in Brijest - a predictable result of recycling stupidity?
(October 11, 2023 at 6:45 am)FlatAssembler Wrote:
(October 9, 2023 at 10:31 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Couldn't help myself, had to let it hang - but for people who might actually be interested in the answer (or more generally how to answer such vapid questions)...goes like this.

NK lacks sufficient arable land or long enough growing seasons to support itself -and- is wholly reliant on imported inputs to squeeze out what little it can.  Additionally, the last great famine (cause by precisely these two factors) reduced the number and health of the current working age cohort right when they were needed and at just about the same time as the worst harvests in decades were recorded.  The government fails to adequately address this, prioritizing defense spending and clannish grift.  So there's just no universe in which the pariah state with it's mad king can avoid starvation.  They're dealing with the limits of land and labor and the regime exacerbates this problem with policies and positions that have caused a downward spiral of economic isolation which has never will never and can never facilitate a solution.

Since you're committed to your idiotic routine...I know there aren't any dragons in nk because the nkians would have eaten them all by now, if there were.

So, isn't that circular reasoning? You know North Koreans are starving because there are no dragons there to hunt them. And you know there are no dragons there because, if there were, North Koreans would have eaten them up because they are starving.

Well, you know how it is with dragons - you eat one and then an hour later you’re hungry again.

Boru
‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson
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#38
RE: Fire in Brijest - a predictable result of recycling stupidity?
(October 11, 2023 at 12:57 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(October 11, 2023 at 6:45 am)FlatAssembler Wrote: So, isn't that circular reasoning? You know North Koreans are starving because there are no dragons there to hunt them. And you know there are no dragons there because, if there were, North Koreans would have eaten them up because they are starving.

Well, you know how it is with dragons - you eat one and then an hour later you’re hungry again.

Boru
That's because those NK dragons are so skinny if you want some dragons with some meat you gotta go to the Canadian West Hehe
"Change was inevitable"


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 “No matter what men think, abortion is a fact of life. Women have always had them; they always have and they always will. Are they going to have good ones or bad ones? Will the good ones be reserved for the rich, while the poor women go to quacks?”
–SHIRLEY CHISHOLM


      
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#39
RE: Fire in Brijest - a predictable result of recycling stupidity?
(October 11, 2023 at 11:50 am)arewethereyet Wrote:
(October 11, 2023 at 11:45 am)FlatAssembler Wrote: If you don't accept basic logic (that circular reasoning is fallacious), then you are not a person that one can discuss with.

You think things don't exist just because you haven't seen them (iPhones for example) or that something isn't real because on your visit the place was closed (prison).

You wouldn't know logic if it slapped you upside the head.

Yeah, I know, what's that mean?

It's not that I don't believe in iPhones just because I haven't seen them, I don't believe in them because I know they making them would be a huge engineering challenge. And the primary reason I don't believe in prisons is that prisons appear to contradict the Karl Popper's Principle of Rationality, which is one of the basic principles of modern social sciences.
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#40
RE: Fire in Brijest - a predictable result of recycling stupidity?
I would spill a drop of coffee if you were posting from your prison iphone right now. Just one.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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