Palestine

[Rev. Rye]

Hamas does not fight Israel because of this Hadith; Hamas fight Israel because it's a colony of prosecuted Jews who got brutalized by Europeans, then decided to pick the lands of Palestinians to move to.

Hamas are ignorant fundamentalist brutes, just like you. Read their Charter.

If my interactions with him where I explicitly pointed it out are any indication, the only thought he seems to have is that they cited a potentially inauthentic Hadith. And I can only assume that’s the sum total of his criticism of Hamas.

[Leonardo17]

The Hospital attack is said to be a misfired rocket from “the other side”.
 

---

 
+ Why does anyone think that firing rockets from densely inhabited areas into Israel (even if that was something acceptable) is a good thing?
 
And look at this:
 
https://www.yahoo.com/news/egypt-rejects...54370.html
 
Egypt’s population is 100 million and growing. Is the death of one civilian worth the thing for which they are being so stubborn?
 
+ Protests erupted everywhere in the Muslim world. There are even articles discussing whether it is still safe for European citizen to travel to Turkey anymore (it is safe).
 
Still most Muslim countries are now being ruled by some form or theocracy (or authoritarian rule that works in concert with political İslamists). The “Muslim” versin that people are seeing on TV and social media outlets that are being controlled by Political Islamists is that Israel has decided to bomb Muslim for no real reason, that the US and Europeans are backing them because they are complete racists and/or “enemies of Islam” (I personally don’t know any more what their version of “Islam” is) and that they are being the victims and so on an do forth…
 
Left-wing news outlets are pointing out to the danger of doing this. There are theories according to which it was the US government that started to back up these “Jihadists” all over the Muslim world to counter-balance Soviet progress in these regions in the 1970’s and 1980’s. It is known that Bibi did work with Hamas as late as the 90’s to weaken to position of Yasser Arafat, the PLO and the secular government of Palestine in order to avoid respecting the terms of the Oslo Agreement.
 
This is dangerous. I don’t like using words like “Nazis” of “fascism” out of contexts. But there is an entire new front for democracies that is now growing stronger in the whole area that is known to us as “The Muslim world”. The ideology is a false interpretation of the Quran that is known as Wahhabism or Salafism. There is no real political capital but everything is basically being ruled by the Arabian Peninsula. People have almost no prospect for the future. Women do not own their own lives so the population is constantly growing. The social structure is aristocracy with a real mob that is ignorant, poor and increasingly brainwashed by this cocktail of religion married to some sort of neo-fascist ideology.
 
   And this is a problem. Because 1) we are still civilized people. None of us really wants to live in an Islamic 1984 style dystopia. 2) This entire area will probably cease to exist. It is going to turn into a second version of sub-Saharan Africa. Nobody will even want to know whatever it is that’s happening in this area.
 
   And this is a problem because: That’s the end of one major civilization in this world. This entire civilization that built the Alhambra Mosque in Spain and what the leading light of science and philosophy in the Middle Ages, well: It won’t exist anymore. There will be archaeologists digging us up in some places and speculating on who we were and how we destroyed ourselves.
 

---

Again there was this local journalist yesterday.
 
After hearing about the little boy that was stabbed in Illinois (https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-67119183)
 
He said: “G.D. all politicized form of religion. G.D. all fascist and racist ideology in the world”.
 
I think I totally agree

[WinterHold]

If Israel is innocent, why doesn't it provide satellite imagery of the hospital bombing ?

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/10/1...n-hospital

Russia’s foreign ministry said on Wednesday that the strike on al-Ahli Arab Hospital was a shockingly dehumanising crime and said that Israel should provide satellite imagery if it was not involved.

“We qualify such a felonious deed as a crime – as an act of dehumanisation,” Foreign Ministry Spokeswoman Maria Zakharova told Radio Sputnik.

Before claims and accusations, the apartheid state Israel should provide evidence.

[WinterHold]

The current U.S government showed its real face.
Nobody will ever trust them again, including their allies.
The U.S is like a scary ghoul that everybody is scared of now.

[Fake Messiah]

Photos have been around for a few hours and it seems that something exploded on the hospital parking lot. The hospital seems to have very little damage.



It seems that one of the 10 rockets fired by Islamic Jihad toward Israel misfired (fairly common event) and hit the parking lot of a hospital.

[WinterHold]

Where are is the "satellite imagery" ??

https://atheistforums.org/thread-65528-p...pid2174535

[h4ym4n]

Where are is the "satellite imagery" ??

https://atheistforums.org/thread-65528-p...pid2174535

You mean god watching everything and doing nothing?

[Fake Messiah]

There has been drone footage available for hours.



Also audio clip in which Hamas members confirming a misfiring rocket launched by Palestinian Islamic Jihad was responsible for the devastation of a Gaza hospital.

[The Architect Of Fate]

To be fair we should maintain some scepticism as we have no way of confirming that audio and the drone photo and site photos lack context.

[WinterHold]

I didn't ask for shitty audio clip recorded in the IDF military base.
I asked for satellite imagery.