What are the best methods for encouraging religious de-conversion and immunising people against religious beliefs?
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Atheist Evangelism
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(October 24, 2023 at 3:41 am)FrustratedFool Wrote: What are the best methods for encouraging religious de-conversion and immunising people against religious beliefs? Bastinado, thumbscrews, and the rack. Boru
‘I can’t be having with this.’ - Esmeralda Weatherwax
I doubt those actually work all that well.
Teaching evolution seems far more effective.
Teaching evolution won't work unless the religionists accept the teaching. They've shown themselves to be remarkably resistant to that.
Boru
‘I can’t be having with this.’ - Esmeralda Weatherwax
RE: Atheist Evangelism
October 24, 2023 at 5:10 am
(This post was last modified: October 24, 2023 at 5:10 am by FrustratedFool.)
I think it acts more as a preventative. But it's not the best method. Though learning about evolution was definitely a step in my de-conversion.
A better method seems to be social sexual freedom and prosperity. But religion is dying quite slowly in America. North West Europe is a bigger success story in terms of de-Christianisation, though Islam might be a trickier issue.
Education, logic and reason.
Cetero censeo religionem delendam esse
RE: Atheist Evangelism
October 24, 2023 at 9:58 am
(This post was last modified: October 24, 2023 at 9:59 am by brewer.)
Question/Challange the justifications they put forward for their belief system.
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental.
RE: Atheist Evangelism
October 24, 2023 at 10:19 am
(This post was last modified: October 24, 2023 at 10:19 am by Fake Messiah.)
You should start from the peripheral things. Boru mentions that you should start by talking about evolution, but that's too close/ obvious. So by peripheral approach, I mean that you should start with the subject of gay people - Christians are usually taught by the church that gay people are wicked and secretly communist agents who are trying to overthrow the government, so you show them "Will and Grace" where they can see that gay people are normal like everyone else. Or the church teaches Christians that Jews still steal Christian children to eat them, so you show them Seinfeld and they see that Jews are people like them.
So when they see that the church lied to them about gays and Jews, they slowly get curious about what else are they wrong about, and you slowly come to telling them about evolution and how there is no evidence of the existence of gods. These kinds of TV shows helped people abandon religion and religious leaders know it, that's why you can hear them talking about the "dangers of secularism".
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
I'm not interested in deconverting the religious. As for countering it, that has to be done early in life, and should also be supporting later by a solid education in critical thinking.
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