Atheist Evangelism

[Gawdzilla Sama]

The idea of evangelizing atheism is a non-starter.

Live your life as a decent person, or not, without it needing to be due to a belief or non in some sort of deity.

Le BINGO!

[FrustratedFool]

The idea of evangelizing atheism is a non-starter.

Live your life as a decent person, or not, without it needing to be due to a belief or non in some sort of deity.

Le BINGO!

If someone had prevented me from becoming religious, or had put the effort into deconverting me earlier, my life would have been better.  Many can say the same.

[Angrboda]

Subjective assessments cannot be false.

So you'd rather not answer the point.

[Ahriman]

Le BINGO!

If someone had prevented me from becoming religious, or had put the effort into deconverting me earlier, my life would have been better.  Many can say the same.

Are you sure about that?

[Angrboda]

Le BINGO!

If someone had prevented me from becoming religious, or had put the effort into deconverting me earlier, my life would have been better.  Many can say the same.

This seems like a rather suspect claim. What is your evidence?

[FrustratedFool]

Subjective assessments cannot be false.

So you'd rather not answer the point.

Given our conversation elsewhere, do you not see this response to me as uncivil?  And if I point out to you that it is would you view me as being overly sensitive?

Regardless, that was my answer.  Subjective assessments cannot be false.  Do you not see how that is a response to your point?

[Angrboda]

So you'd rather not answer the point.

Given our conversation elsewhere, do you not see this response to me as uncivil?  And if I point out to you that it is would you view me as being overly sensitive?

Regardless, that was my answer.  Subjective assessments cannot be false.  Do you not see how that is a response to your point?

It doesn't cut the matter at her joints. The question was how false information in general is necessarily harmful, and you chose instead to focus on the example given to the exclusion of the greater point.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

If someone had prevented me from becoming religious, or had put the effort into deconverting me earlier, my life would have been better.  Many can say the same.

Are you sure about that?

I was never religious, not injected with the God virus as a child.

[FrustratedFool]

If someone had prevented me from becoming religious, or had put the effort into deconverting me earlier, my life would have been better.  Many can say the same.

This seems like a rather suspect claim.  What is your evidence?

Good catch.  Let me re-phrase with greater precision:

If someone had prevented me from becoming religious, or had put the effort into deconverting me earlier, I believe my life would have been better, because various negative life events and experiences that happened to me, certain decisions I made with deleterious effect, certain activities I engaged in that resulted in harm, which were motivated in very large part by religious conviction, would most likely not have been instantiated, and it seems reasonable to hold, based upon previous conduct and common sense, to the idea that without those motivating convictions I would have far more likely have made alternative choices and consequently experienced a life I would subjectively deem as better (I use choice here in its subjective experiential sense).

For example, if I refused medicine based upon religious convictions and my health suffered as a result, then I think it reasonable to say that my life would have been better without the influence of religion.  Likewise if I suffered religious abuse, or conversion therapy, or had an unwanted child, or stayed in an abusive relationship, or didn't persue educational or employment opportunities, or hurt others, etc.

Hope that helps clarify my statement.

[FrustratedFool]

Are you sure about that?

I was never religious, not injected with the God virus as a child.

And I would want that benefit extended to all others.