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RE: Vote for the new pope
April 24, 2025 at 4:52 am
So, I take it you’re in Camp Tedesco.
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RE: Vote for the new pope
April 24, 2025 at 5:05 am
(April 24, 2025 at 12:46 am)TheWhiteMarten Wrote: Cardinal Sarah, at least at a cultural level, would be a good pick - don't know enough about his theology to make a decision there.
The first sub-Saharan pope would be a strong move - as the church increasingly shifts to Africa and the Middle East/China and declines in the West, signaling a will to move in that direction would be a potentially massive PR tool in expanding the faith in oppressed communities; additionally Sarah has been on the frontlines of dealing with groups like ISIS-DRC and is well aware of the threats they pose.
I guess I won't hold my breath, but would love to see him advocate for the reestablishment of military orders to protect Christians both in the Islamic/atheist world and in the West as well.
At the end of the day, who has the slightest clue what the politics of the Vatican will leave us with.
Such a move (while I'm sure would give you tingles in your trousies) would lead to the widespread persecution of Christians. How can you not grasp that?
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RE: Vote for the new pope
April 24, 2025 at 7:54 am
One of the cardinals in the running is Pierbattista Pizzaballa.
Please please please!
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RE: Vote for the new pope
April 24, 2025 at 12:13 pm
(April 24, 2025 at 7:54 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: One of the cardinals in the running is Pierbattista Pizzaballa.
Please please please!
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His real name sounds more made up than the cardinals I came up with (Sans Köfte who is very real and half meatball)
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RE: Vote for the new pope
April 24, 2025 at 1:39 pm
(April 24, 2025 at 5:05 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: (April 24, 2025 at 12:46 am)TheWhiteMarten Wrote: Cardinal Sarah, at least at a cultural level, would be a good pick - don't know enough about his theology to make a decision there.
The first sub-Saharan pope would be a strong move - as the church increasingly shifts to Africa and the Middle East/China and declines in the West, signaling a will to move in that direction would be a potentially massive PR tool in expanding the faith in oppressed communities; additionally Sarah has been on the frontlines of dealing with groups like ISIS-DRC and is well aware of the threats they pose.
I guess I won't hold my breath, but would love to see him advocate for the reestablishment of military orders to protect Christians both in the Islamic/atheist world and in the West as well.
At the end of the day, who has the slightest clue what the politics of the Vatican will leave us with.
Such a move (while I'm sure would give you tingles in your trousies) would lead to the widespread persecution of Christians. How can you not grasp that?
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"Arming individuals facing persecution and providing them the means to defend themselves will only increase the persecution they face."
An interesting hypothesis, seems pretty contrary to current global politics.
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RE: Vote for the new pope
April 24, 2025 at 2:22 pm
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(April 24, 2025 at 1:39 pm)TheWhiteMarten Wrote: (April 24, 2025 at 5:05 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Such a move (while I'm sure would give you tingles in your trousies) would lead to the widespread persecution of Christians. How can you not grasp that?
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"Arming individuals facing persecution and providing them the means to defend themselves will only increase the persecution they face."
An interesting hypothesis, seems pretty contrary to current global politics.
But the military orders did NOT historically protect Christians. They protected Catholics and persecuted everyone else.
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RE: Vote for the new pope
April 24, 2025 at 2:45 pm
For whatever it's worth I put this in the humor section as it was just a goofy notion.
Not sure why Marty made it so serious
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RE: Vote for the new pope
April 24, 2025 at 2:57 pm
Hear me out
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: Vote for the new pope
April 24, 2025 at 3:18 pm
(April 24, 2025 at 2:45 pm)Nay_Sayer Wrote: For whatever it's worth I put this in the humor section as it was just a goofy notion.
Not sure why Marty made it so serious
I was also surprised by that, given his delightfully mischievous sense of humour.*
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RE: Vote for the new pope
April 24, 2025 at 3:18 pm
(April 24, 2025 at 2:57 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote: Hear me out
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