theory from pure observation

[SubtleVirtue]

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[arewethereyet]

I would rather breathe out and in.

Does this post have a purpose? I see it ends with "God exists". That's a great start considering where you stumbled into.

[Alan V]

(17) (14,15,16) C; "energy is consciousness"

Nope, not even close.

Consciousness is an emergent property of evolved brains, a brain function which is wholly brain-dependent. There's a lot of evidence supporting that assertion from all sorts of studies.

While the brain depends on its own chemistry and electrical activation, all of that is meaningless without its evolved structure.

Extrapolate from that information, and your energy-God is likely missing its key attributes of consciousness and willfulness. That isn't much of a God after all.

[SubtleVirtue]

as long as you breath I suppose


the purpose of the post is to share my synthetic proof of God

it is a great start, I agree

[SubtleVirtue]

(11) F; "every experiment ever constructed shows that everything is made of energy"

(12) (10,11) C; "monism exists"

(13) F; "every cause involves energy"

(14) (11,12,13) C; "energy is self-causal"

(15) S; "self-causal", "self-deterministic", and "teleological"

(16) S; "self-determinism" and "consciousness"

(17) (14,15,16) C; "energy is consciousness"


I notice that you are trying to rebut a conclusion without rebutting the inference or the axioms.

Do you have a problem with the axioms or the inference?

[arewethereyet]

It's pretty standard to introduce yourself when you enter a new place. Why don't you make an introduction post? Or, did you skip it because you aren't new here?

[SubtleVirtue]

It's pretty standard to introduce yourself when you enter a new place.  Why don't you make an introduction post? Or, did you skip it because you aren't new here?

ok, I will do that.

[Alan V]

(11) F; "every experiment ever constructed shows that everything is made of energy"

(12) (10,11) C; "monism exists"

(13) F; "every cause involves energy"

(14) (11,12,13) C; "energy is self-causal"

(15) S; "self-causal", "self-deterministic", and "teleological"

(16) S; "self-determinism" and "consciousness"

(17) (14,15,16) C; "energy is consciousness"


I notice that you are trying to rebut a conclusion without rebutting the inference or the axioms.

Do you have a problem with the axioms or the inference?

Yes I do, with the last three bolded above.  Equating self-causal with self-deterministic with consciousness is anthropomorphizing.  

You are arguing for a metaphor, not for the very real existence of conscious and willful God.

Energy may have God-like powers, but that doesn't make it God if it's missing essential attributes.

[Angrboda]

Cool story, bro.

[SubtleVirtue]

(11) F; "every experiment ever constructed shows that everything is made of energy"

(12) (10,11) C; "monism exists"

(13) F; "every cause involves energy"

(14) (11,12,13) C; "energy is self-causal"

(15) S; "self-causal", "self-deterministic", and "teleological"

(16) S; "self-determinism" and "consciousness"

(17) (14,15,16) C; "energy is consciousness"


I notice that you are trying to rebut a conclusion without rebutting the inference or the axioms.

Do you have a problem with the axioms or the inference?

Yes I do, with the last three bolded above.  Equating self-causal with self-deterministic with consciousness is anthropomorphizing.  

You are arguing for a metaphor, not for the very real existence of conscious and willful God.  

Energy may have God-like powers, but that doesn't make it God if it's missing essential attributes.

thank you for highlighting your concern.

I equated self-causal with self-deterministic and self-determinism with consciousness.

anthropomorphizing is attributing human characteristics to non-humans

do animals have consciousness? That is anthropomorphizing

and by the way I am not merely "attributing", I am proving!

So, you agree that energy is eternal, omnipresent, and omnipotent?