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“Normative” ethical theories
RE: “Normative” ethical theories
(6 hours ago)LoneWolf Wrote: Main players of modern stoicism that I know are William B. Irvine (Guide to the Good Life), Massimo Pigluicci (How To Be A Stoic) and Donald Robertson. Some caution here: there is no single authority of (modern) stoicism, so flavors will differ among these authors. Also stoicism has gained considerable popularity in the last decade due to the emerging self-help cult but not everything in the self-help section that claims stoic roots can be traced back to stoic roots.

A big difference between ancient stoicism and modern stoicism is that the metaphysics (belief in the greek gods and divine reason) and the corresponding doctrines are dropped in modern stoicism. For the greeks (and romans) stoicism was a system encompassing logic, physics and ethics. Modern stoicism focuses on ethics specifically related to the question how one should live. What is more or less shared between ancient stoicism and the modern version is the central position of virtues that mark the goals for how to live. One should live in accordance with these virtues. Four goals or virtues are stated by stoic thinkers: wisdom, courage, justice and temperance.

Irvine replaces the supreme stoic goal of "living in accord with virtue" with the goal of attaining "tranquillity" or freedom from emotional suffering, explaining that it is "unusual, after all, for modern individuals to have an interest in becoming more virtuous, in the ancient sense of the word"

It's a big topic in itself, so for now I''ll leave it to that.

Interesting, so in light of comparing between views, I think that that view of Irving kinda tallies with some Buddhist views?
Would you say this is a good summary? https://modernstoicism.com/wp-content/up...oicism.pdf

Given my anti-realist commitments I like that shift that Irving does. I suspect I would have to be careful around the use of virtue depending on whether they are seen as absolutes or instrumental goals. I just bought Irvine’s book A Guide to the Good Life on audible
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