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“Normative” ethical theories
RE: “Normative” ethical theories
Yeah, np. As an addendum, and since I’ve already recommended kagan- this business about doing realism while rejecting realism is something he observed and quantified in the process of the research which lead to his book on the geometry of desert. I’ve run into it both in moral discussions and in normal life. He turned it into a reliable predictive model for self respondence.

What you and I (and he) might call considerate and thoughtful people are guarded with their moral convictions ( and condemnations) if pressed. We might casually make some moral remark which other people immediately accept as true and obviously true. However…if prompted to think objectively or directly queried about moral realism or objectivity some portion of that same group will immediately reverse their initial responses. You can get a very good read on which ones before you do this by asking them questions about moral desert, about whether people should get more, exactly as much, or less than they deserve. Even more specifically in the negative sense.

So called “underpunushers” those who think that it might be better if we get less than we deserve when those consequences would be negative are reliable reversers. It’s hypothesized that we become wary of our moral convictions when we fear that they may lead to someone suffering in ways we do not easily anticipate.

TLDR version….it turns out that even when there’s only one person involved, internal moral disagreement is fairly easy to prompt.
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