Infernal ICE

[Thumpalumpacus]

Former Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.) urged President Trump’s MAGA base to “take off their political blinders” as she expressed skepticism about the use of force deployed during the latest shooting in Minnesota involving a federal immigration agent.

In a post on the social platform X, Greene touted her support for law enforcement and immigration enforcement, but she also defended the right to legally carry firearms, indirectly pushing back on claims that 37-year-old Alex Pretti posed a threat to federal officers by virtue of carrying a firearm.

“I unapologetically believe in border security and deporting criminal illegal aliens and I support law enforcement. However, I also unapologetically support the 2nd amendment,” Greene wrote. “Legally carrying a firearm is not the same as brandishing a firearm.”

“I support American’s 1st and 4th amendment rights,” she continued. “There is nothing wrong with legally peacefully protesting and videoing.”

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/57058...minnesota/

Was that a pig I just saw flying past my window?

[Deesse23]

Leopards.....faces 

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

“I support American’s 1st and 4th amendment rights,” she continued. “There is nothing wrong with legally peacefully protesting…

Someone should remind her that your country was founded on illegal, violent protesting.

Boru

[Thumpalumpacus]

“I support American’s 1st and 4th amendment rights,” she continued. “There is nothing wrong with legally peacefully protesting…

Someone should remind her that your country was founded on illegal, violent protesting.

Boru

Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats.

[Deesse23]

“I support American’s 1st and 4th amendment rights,” she continued. “There is nothing wrong with legally peacefully protesting…

Someone should remind her that your country was founded on illegal, violent protesting.

Boru

I dont remember, please help me out here: Was that already her position before she started to protest?

[Angrboda]

People care even less about what Marge has to say now than they did before. Its only utility is providing a sense of superiority to liberals.

[Thumpalumpacus]

People care even less about what Marge has to say now than they did before.  Its only utility is providing a sense of superiority to liberals.

I do confess a certain guilty pleasure in watching her treading water trying to retain any semblance of relevance.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

According to The Atlantic, Greg Bovino has been removed from his made-up post as ICE commander-at-large. The Ministry of Truth (DHS) is denying that he was ousted, but CNN reports that his access to his social media accounts has been revoked.

Boru

[Leonardo17]

Ivan Denisovich:
 
- Thanks for the corrections. I will try to check out my knowledge on history more in the future
 
Anyway, Regular TV does not really show how dramatic the events in Minnesota have become. Social media is full of very dramatic images:
 
https://youtu.be/6hh4SfoDATQ?t=127
 
I’m am rediscovering the US culture of civil disobedience in these images.
 
And I want to add that:
- If your ancestors were not brought to the US as slaves as it is the case for many Afro-Americans, you’re an immigrant (all US citizens are). So these people seem to understand very well what is happening in their country and they are resisting through mostly peaceful means.
 
Also, racial theories like the theory of the great replacement (that motivates some MAGA supporters) is also a lie. As humans we have some geographical adaptation to the climate and geography in which we live, but genetically speaking, we are more or less the same.
 
Finally: There is no “uncontrolled immigration” in the US or in any industrialized nation. Between 1950 and 1973 there were these waves of immigration to northern Europe mainly from south-European countries. These were due to the need of workforce in a rapidly growing industrial economy. These flows of population decreased in the 1970’s and were very low in the 1990’s.
 
And today: No one migrates to the US unless they have a student visa or a work permit or a touristic visa or something like that. And when and if your Visa expires, you need to leave. That’s how it works.
 
Let me put this more clearly: D. Trump is exploiting the differences within American society. The more these “conservatives” and “liberals” confront each other like this the more points he gets.
 
He is the one who put ICE in the streets of Minnesota. Does he really need to provoke Minnesotans like this? (In a country that has already had an episode of civil war?).
These coming 3 years are going to be tough
 
Thumpalumpacus:
 
- 0 years / 0 months. But news channels here have a good coverage of the events. Many of us are monitoring the events in Minensota very closely
 
BrianBoru:
 
- There is a pattern of how populist leaders behave in order to get more votes and stay in power longer. And I don’t like their ways of doing politics (I don’t like Xavier Milei or Jair Bolsonaro. I didn’t even like Nicholas Sarkozy who has been sentenced to jail last year).
 
   Every job in this world most have a code of conduct. Politics is an area in which politicians must act like responsible adults not self-involved narcissists.
 
   As I said: Those Minnesotans don’t seem to want these ICE agents in their state. Am I wrong with that?

[Mister Agenda]

Just a quibble: Native Americans are also not considered immigrants, Leonardo.