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Veganism - the other OTHER religion
#51
RE: Veganism - the other OTHER religion
(April 29, 2011 at 11:58 pm)Watson Wrote: On this, I think Jesus will forgive me for enjoying the ever-loving fuck out of something so good.

Anyone, wether god or mortal, who makes an eternally flaming torture chamber does not understand even the very basics of forgiveness, benevolence, or what is good. Someone who creates a Hell and then claims he is forgiving is a liar, and should NOT be trusted tih any other promises he makes.

If I told you I had a torture chamber in the basement of my house, and that I used it on people who did not do what I asked them to do, what would you think of me?
(April 30, 2011 at 5:37 am)Zen Badger Wrote:
(April 29, 2011 at 11:58 pm)Watson Wrote: On this, I think Jesus will forgive me for enjoying the ever-loving fuck out of something so good.

I'm sure that's exactly what catholic priests say about choir boys.

Reputation got bumped up for this one..LMFAO...good one.
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#52
RE: Veganism - the other OTHER religion
(April 28, 2011 at 11:36 am)Thor Wrote:
(April 28, 2011 at 10:40 am)reverendjeremiah Wrote: I am talking about the extremists. The PETA Vegan's who want to legislate their views on everyone.

The people at PETA are a bunch of assholes. I lost all respect for Bob Barker when I read about him giving $2 million to this organization of douchebags.

True Story.

Weekend before last my girlfriend & I went down to St. Augustine to see Rise Against & Bad Religion, the tickets for which she won a couple of months ago off the local radio station. About half way through Rise Against's set they paused for a minute to give thanks to everyone helping them with the show, roadies, concessions, etc. Every time they'd name someone off they'd get a cheer from the crowd. Apparently, Rise Against are big fans of PETA, who had a booth set up outside of the amphitheater. When they got to thanking PETA, the crowd simply died. No loud cheer. There was a somewhat audible "huh" & people around us were turning their heads to look at each other in disbelief. PETA is very unpopular around these parts. The concert was great, but that part stuck with me & makes me chuckle whenever I think of it.
"How is it that a lame man does not annoy us while a lame mind does? Because a lame man recognizes that we are walking straight, while a lame mind says that it is we who are limping." - Pascal
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#53
RE: Veganism - the other OTHER religion
(May 3, 2011 at 8:14 am)Jaysyn Wrote:
(April 28, 2011 at 11:36 am)Thor Wrote:
(April 28, 2011 at 10:40 am)reverendjeremiah Wrote: I am talking about the extremists. The PETA Vegan's who want to legislate their views on everyone.

The people at PETA are a bunch of assholes. I lost all respect for Bob Barker when I read about him giving $2 million to this organization of douchebags.

True Story.

Weekend before last my girlfriend & I went down to St. Augustine to see Rise Against & Bad Religion, the tickets for which she won a couple of months ago off the local radio station. About half way through Rise Against's set they paused for a minute to give thanks to everyone helping them with the show, roadies, concessions, etc. Every time they'd name someone off they'd get a cheer from the crowd. Apparently, Rise Against are big fans of PETA, who had a booth set up outside of the amphitheater. When they got to thanking PETA, the crowd simply died. No loud cheer. There was a somewhat audible "huh" & people around us were turning their heads to look at each other in disbelief. PETA is very unpopular around these parts. The concert was great, but that part stuck with me & makes me chuckle whenever I think of it.

Im not surprised one bit. PETA made a name for themselves before they even moved to Hampton roads. Now they have their fingers in our government and only the extremists would applaud that. People who own pets are afraid to let them outside for fear that some animal activist will find some kind of law broken and call the cops on them. Its one of the reasons why my father put up a privacy fence around his property. If he wants his pet rabbit and dog to play chase each other, then that is his enjoyment and theirs, and not for someone to call the cops on for "mental anguish" of which ever animal was being chased at the time.
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#54
RE: Veganism - the other OTHER religion
PETA is a bunch of unbelievable morons and I can't believe anyone gives them money. Every time I see a Hollywood celebrity endorsing these jackoffs I make a mental note to avoid their movies.

Have you ever seen their literature? They sell stupid shit like a tiny rope ladder you can attach to a faucet and have it dangle into the sink. This allows a spider (or other insect) to escape if it falls into your sink! Yeah, like I'm worried about saving spiders and bugs. Any creepy, crawly things that get into my house will get stomped, squashed or sprayed with insecticide. These PETA twits would make it illegal to kill a rat that gets into your home. And not only would they make it illegal, they would charge you with MURDER!

And I'm really sick of seeing these jerks every Thanksgiving accusing us of "turkey murder". FUCK YOU!

These assholes are closet terrorists and need to be opposed at every turn.
Science flies us to the moon and stars. Religion flies us into buildings.

God allowed 200,000 people to die in an earthquake. So what makes you think he cares about YOUR problems?
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#55
RE: Veganism - the other OTHER religion
Just a quick browsing on their legal opinions shows how very radical they are:
http://www.peta.org/b/thepetafiles/archi...fault.aspx

-fish and birds to make as pets is considered theft and cruelty
-All public schools should be forced to go VEGAN (otherwise known as "healthy"), not just vegetarian, but what they call "animal friendly".
- Creation of a public list registration for animal abusers
- PETA should propose a bill that bans restaurants from serving anything other than PETA approved food to people they consider "fat".

PETA vice president Wrote:As PETA Vice President Bruce Friedrich says, "Vegan meals like hearty vegetable casseroles, bean burritos, and pasta with mushrooms, tomatoes, and green peppers not only are satisfying but will slim you right down too."

That is a nasty sounding menu if you ask me, other than the bean burritos.
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#56
RE: Veganism - the other OTHER religion
(May 3, 2011 at 10:05 am)reverendjeremiah Wrote: - PETA should propose a bill that bans restaurants from serving anything other than PETA approved food to people they consider "fat".

PETA vice president Wrote:As PETA Vice President Bruce Friedrich says, "Vegan meals like hearty vegetable casseroles, bean burritos, and pasta with mushrooms, tomatoes, and green peppers not only are satisfying but will slim you right down too."

That is a nasty sounding menu if you ask me, other than the bean burritos.

So they want to be the food police. I'd like to take the whole lot of them and stick them on an island where the only thing to eat is chickens, pigs and fish. Let's see how quickly they abandon their "animals are friends, not food" mantra.
Science flies us to the moon and stars. Religion flies us into buildings.

God allowed 200,000 people to die in an earthquake. So what makes you think he cares about YOUR problems?
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#57
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http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/sc...936352.ece

sometime soon we will be able to grow meat in petri dishes.



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#58
RE: Veganism - the other OTHER religion
Quote:"Vegan meals like hearty vegetable casseroles, bean burritos, and pasta with mushrooms, tomatoes, and green peppers


And if they could then learn to fart in their gas tanks they wouldn't need oil, either.
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#59
RE: Veganism - the other OTHER religion
(May 3, 2011 at 10:12 am)Thor Wrote:




Ya know....IF PETA people are an example of how humans behave on a vegan / vegetarian diet...I think I'll just keep on eating my small amounts of meat thankyou. Clearly a lack of meat in the diet DOES effect brain function...who'da thought Thinking

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#60
RE: Veganism - the other OTHER religion
(April 28, 2011 at 11:03 am)Zen Badger Wrote: The fact is, we have evolved as omnivores and we require meat as well as vegetables.

They seem to have this idea that in nature animals live in some sort of happy co-existance where no really gets hurt.

One suspects they've watched "Bambi" one too many times.

It's an ethical choice, simple as that. Noone's denying that we're omnivores and that there's a great deal of cruelty in the wild, but that argument simply isn't comparing like with like.

We are animals, after all, and I personally think that we have a moral obligation to minimize the suffering done to our fellow creatures, no matter how lowly they are. As long as they suffer, I think it's wrong to turn a blind eye. I'm sure a philosopher like Shelly Kagan can be more eloquent about it, but it's a simple and fair ethical stance. Comparing it to a religion is rather insulting, especially when coherent arguments can be made by both sides, and I fucking hate it when people think veganism for moral reasons is some form of "extremism."
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