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Good source of climate change data
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Don't worry about Welsh Cake, he's just one of those "deniers".
Climate Change itself isn't caused by humans, but the rate of change is.  (May 10, 2011 at 5:23 am)ib.me.ub Wrote: Don't worry about Welsh Cake, he's just one of those "deniers". Were there no human induced warming, climate change at this time should be going in the opposite direction from what is observed based on what we know of the long tern natural factors impacting on global climate. More accurate to say causes of climate change consist of many components, some of which are related to the impact of GHG emitted by humans. At the current time, the aggregate strength of components other than human induced GHG is being overwhelmed by human induced GHG. This does not mean in the future, certain other elements can not gain in strength until the aggregate non-man made effects surpass those of man-made effect. But for now, Human GHG emission is controlling the direction og global climate change. RE: Good source of climate change data
May 10, 2011 at 5:38 am
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(May 10, 2011 at 5:33 am)Chuck Wrote:(May 10, 2011 at 5:23 am)ib.me.ub Wrote: Climate Change itself isn't caused by humans, but the rate of change is. Links please.  ![[Image: mybannerglitter06eee094.gif]](https://images.weserv.nl/?url=i118.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fo112%2Fpussinboots_photos%2FBikes%2Fmybannerglitter06eee094.gif) If you're not supposed to ride faster than your guardian angel can fly then mine had better get a bloody SR-71.  (May 10, 2011 at 6:17 am)Zen Badger Wrote: A major factor in global warming. Solar activity is inversely correlated with rising temperatures...
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RE: Good source of climate change data
May 10, 2011 at 2:34 pm
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(May 10, 2011 at 5:38 am)ib.me.ub Wrote:(May 10, 2011 at 5:33 am)Chuck Wrote:(May 10, 2011 at 5:23 am)ib.me.ub Wrote: Climate Change itself isn't caused by humans, but the rate of change is. Roe G (2006). "In defense of Milankovitch". Geophysical Research Letters (May 10, 2011 at 8:59 am)popeyespappy Wrote: ...... claims you care to make about anthropic global warming...... anthropogenic? Any warming while humans exist can be called anthropic warming. RE: Good source of climate change data
May 10, 2011 at 3:46 pm
(This post was last modified: May 10, 2011 at 3:50 pm by Welsh cake.)
(May 10, 2011 at 8:59 am)popeyespappy Wrote: Well Cup Cake, I posted the link not so much as something to discuss but as a data source for others.With all due respect this isn't the proper place to make shameless plugs, you started a thread, I'm expecting you to follow-through now and start the debate about any given topic matter relating to general science. You picked climate change data. The ball's in your court. Quote:I would however be happy to address any specific evidence backed claims you care to make about anthropic global warming. I don’t know what good that would do though because everything you’ve ever had to say on the subject has already been thoroughly refuted in recent threads on this forum.Then you obviously haven't even bothered to read my posts. I haven't presented anything that could be refuted or supported. I'm not the majority who are lobbying with the rest of the scientific consensus that global warming is occurring and human activities are chiefly responsible. That's a big fucking claim and all I've ever been presented with when I ask for proof why we must have carbon taxes is some statistical crap that would make my managers proud as opposed to a direct correlation that greenhouse gases are in fact forcing these climate feedbacks. I also haven't been given a single peer reviewed paper on this, I don't know yet if this has gone through the process to determine if it's creditable or not. I looked and can't find them. Even if peer reviews were presented, you still must know this is a necessary but still not sufficient condition to presenting a scientific case for AGW. If neither of us can find these papers it demonstrates IPCC are not fundamentally serious about their position. All I am is simply skeptical of anthropogenic climate change. :> Quote:Unlike Earth, Martian climate is driven primarily by dust and albedo.We're not talking about climate change on other planets. And if we are, Zen Badger is the link broken? |
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