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The Atheist's Way
#11
RE: The Atheist's Way
I won't speak for anyone else here but, in Erics case it's just the title of his book. The book could be about anything. When you say atheist doctrine we know exactly what you mean.

I haven't gotten a chance to read the book like I wanted too though so, I don't know the whole story with it. however:

In The Atheist’s Way, Eric Maisel teaches you how to make rich personal meaning despite the absence of beneficent gods and the indifference of the universe to human concerns. Exploding the myth that there is any meaning to find or to seek, Dr. Maisel explains why the paradigm shift from seeking meaning to making meaning is this century’s most pressing intellectual goal. - Amazon.com product description.

Don't see dogma in there, the idea is something that does not apply to those that beleive in god(s) though.

I agree with you it sounds rather interesting, I'm not sure what Kindle is though. Is it a bookstore or website of some kind? Personally I was gonna stop by a store called Chapters, should be able to order anything as long as you have the ISBN number for the title.
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#12
RE: The Atheist's Way
(March 20, 2009 at 4:34 pm)leo-rcc Wrote: The fact he calls his book that, doesn't mean we agree or disagree with the premise.

Granted.
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#13
RE: The Atheist's Way
I just read the first chapter. There are some good points made.

There were maybe two or three things I didn't agree with so much, but overall it was very interesting.
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#14
RE: The Atheist's Way
(March 20, 2009 at 4:37 pm)Edward Wrote:
(March 20, 2009 at 4:34 pm)leo-rcc Wrote: The fact he calls his book that, doesn't mean we agree or disagree with the premise.

Granted.

Perhaps technically speaking it should be called An Atheist Way instead? Wink

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#15
RE: The Atheist's Way
Is he more lucid than Dawkins? I ask as I find him a bit underwhelming at times.


I'm asked to read a book,written by someone I've never heard of who turns up here for the sole purpose of selling his book? The title sounds as if it's been written by an atheist Dr Phil.


I think I'll pass.


Besides,in no longer read self help books. In my experience,such books seem to help the publishers and posibly the authors, and that's about it .

So far,the guy's an irritating spammer and a troll imo.
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RE: The Atheist's Way
(March 22, 2009 at 2:24 am)padraic Wrote: Is he more lucid than Dawkins? I ask as I find him a bit underwhelming at times.


I'm asked to read a book,written by someone I've never heard of who turns up here for the sole purpose of selling his book? The title sounds as if it's been written by an atheist Dr Phil.


I think I'll pass.


Besides,in no longer read self help books. In my experience,such books seem to help the publishers and posibly the authors, and that's about it .

So far,the guy's an irritating spammer and a troll imo.

Good point. I don't want to read the book either, but at least we know there is a book out there as a result of the post. I would hope that any new book by an atheist on atheism or any book on science would be perhaps showcased here.

But it may be more honest to buy advertising space--yes, the author should have done that if he/she didn't want to be a member and participate in the forum.
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RE: The Atheist's Way
(March 22, 2009 at 2:24 am)padraic Wrote: Is he more lucid than Dawkins? I ask as I find him a bit underwhelming at times.


I'm asked to read a book,written by someone I've never heard of who turns up here for the sole purpose of selling his book? The title sounds as if it's been written by an atheist Dr Phil.


I think I'll pass.


Besides,in no longer read self help books. In my experience,such books seem to help the publishers and posibly the authors, and that's about it .
I've read countless self-help books lol...

My conclusion is that perhaps one day I should write a self-help book myself called 'The ULTIMATE Self-Help Book' and constantly rant on in it about how one of the best ways to help yourself - and to get on with your life - is to NOT buy self help books lol Smile, they certainly were counter-productive for me; overall at least.

Some good bits in some of them but overall they were all a waste of time more or less.
And I'm not saying that its impossible to write a good one..

And also a lot of them were just plain utter bull of the most bullshitting kind.
I think the thing is that they can feed your need for 'needing help' and make you feel worse than you did in the first place.

You might just want a bit of help and guidance for example; and you end up wanting more and feeling a bit confused. And developing a 'need' that makes you feel worse than you did in the first place...

And then when you buy several - or many - 'self-help' books and they all disagree with each other and some are more bullshit than others - then it starts to get even more confusing.
Oh, I dunno. I was never good at selecting the best bits from different books either. Now I can do that but I realize it means taking like 1% from some of the books and 0% from others because they've just complete nonsense mostly in my experience.

Because self-help books mostly seem to just state the obvious or generally say the same kind of thing in different ways.
And some of them also spout bull lol.

But on the other hand...I've never read a self-help book by an atheist specifically about how you can still obviously have a good life if you don't believe in God (that's what it's about I assume?).

But I don't desire it - or feel that I need it - myself so I'm not going to buy it.
And if I DID buy it I'm certainly not going to fall into a trap again and start buying self-help books by atheists and how 'you don't need to believe in God to be happy'.

Because like other self-help books that would seem mostly like stating the obvious again to me. Perhaps without the bullshit part though lol Tongue (or rather; just LESS bullshit, some of those self-help spouted on and on about 'spiritual' nonsense; or even actually mentioned 'God' like half way through and I'm sat there thinking "Oh f*ck.....ugh! How annoying" and basically feeling I've wasted my money AGAIN lol.

Glad that phase of mine was over a while ago now!! Hehe.

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#18
RE: The Atheist's Way
I have to say I agree with Padraic,

* As far as I can tell this is a secularised version of all those self-help books which I have never wanted to read, can't think of a good reason why I'd want to read this one.
* The guy has posted twice here each time with the apparent sole purpose of advertising his book so yeah, he appears to be an irritating spammer (though not a troll I would say) and his posts should have been corralled and subsequently deleted.

I, too, will pass.

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#19
RE: The Atheist's Way
@Kyu

OK,not a troll,he probably didn't want to irritate possible customers. THAT seems to have really gone well.Cool Shades



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#20
RE: The Atheist's Way
Looking at the 1st chapter I find it meandering.

On the subject of spamming.. I can tolerate it if it's for something small scale or free/ open source.. maybe the author doesn't have the cash reserves right now to fund advertising, and is trying to drum up some honest business.

Thing is though, if that's the case, then it'd serve the cause if the poster said this.
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