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RE: My change to Atheism from Christianity (I'm 14)
June 29, 2011 at 7:53 pm
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(June 29, 2011 at 7:48 pm)Minimalist Wrote:
No way, you are really 62? This whole time I thought you were some 14 year old just trolling around on here trying to get kudos, little did I know you are nearly 10 years older than my dad. I guess that goes to show you can't judge a poster by their posts. 
(June 29, 2011 at 7:52 pm)Rhythm Wrote: No, Minimalist, the quote you've posted is a cosmological argument, which he has stated is not, in fact, his position. That particular piece of wisdom is just something that fell out of his mouth, not his position.
I said I was not making a cosmological argument in another thread, not that it is a bad argument. I agree with what scripture says about natural revelation.
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RE: My change to Atheism from Christianity (I'm 14)
June 29, 2011 at 7:59 pm
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Actually you do make the cosmological argument when you maintain that creation is proof of the existence of god. Are you saying here by the way that the cosmological argument isn't a bad one, or that you didn't say that is was. If the latter, I'll say it for you. The cosmological argument is a bad one. If the former, actually, it doesn't matter which, my response is the same.
What can I say, I'm on you like red ants on a fish head today.
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RE: My change to Atheism from Christianity (I'm 14)
June 29, 2011 at 8:28 pm
(June 29, 2011 at 7:59 pm)Rhythm Wrote:
First of all, I didn’t make the argument, scripture does. Secondly, you merely asserting the cosmological argument is a bad one does not make it so. I am sure you are also aware that there are counter-objections made to everyone of the objections made in that Wiki article so around and around we go. I do not base my faith on the cosmological argument, but if done correctly it can be a very powerful and persuading argument, more so than the objections to it. Lastly, I have never seen red ants on any head, much less that of a fish
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RE: My change to Atheism from Christianity (I'm 14)
June 29, 2011 at 8:35 pm
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Washing of the hands, a powerful and persuasive tradition.
On that note, I too, am not making any arguments, reality is.
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RE: My change to Atheism from Christianity (I'm 14)
June 29, 2011 at 8:40 pm
(June 29, 2011 at 8:35 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Washing of the hands, a powerful and persuasive tradition.
On that note, I too, am not making any arguments, reality is.
I was rerferring to a piece of scripture that I believe is right on, if I was making the cosmological argument I would actually sit down and spell the whole argument out for you.
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RE: My change to Atheism from Christianity (I'm 14)
June 29, 2011 at 10:33 pm
Hey young, I apologize for assisting/instigating the hijacking of your thread. 
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RE: My change to Atheism from Christianity (I'm 14)
June 29, 2011 at 10:56 pm
(June 29, 2011 at 10:33 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Hey young, I apologize for assisting/instigating the hijacking of your thread.
It is fine haha. It was a good debate.
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RE: My change to Atheism from Christianity (I'm 14)
June 30, 2011 at 2:24 am
(June 29, 2011 at 7:41 pm)Rhythm Wrote: I leave it to you to define what the god of the bible is. So you're ignorant of what it is you're arguing against? That seems to be the case 95% of the time with atheists. You can't criticize a subject very well if you don't know what it is. Address the subject and perhaps we'll get somewhere. 
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RE: My change to Atheism from Christianity (I'm 14)
June 30, 2011 at 3:53 am
How can you be ignorant of something that doesn't exist?
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RE: My change to Atheism from Christianity (I'm 14)
June 30, 2011 at 4:04 am
(June 30, 2011 at 3:53 am)Epimethean Wrote: How can you be ignorant of something that doesn't exist?
I'm with Epimethean on this one!
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