Our server costs ~$56 per month to run. Please consider donating or becoming a Patron to help keep the site running. Help us gain new members by following us on Twitter and liking our page on Facebook!
Current time: November 1, 2026, 11:54 am

Thread Rating:
  • 1 Vote(s) - 4 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
The inefficacy of prayer
#31
RE: The inefficacy of prayer
(September 7, 2008 at 7:18 pm)Meatball Wrote: I can't remember to chapter, but in The God Delusion Dawkins references a study done to test the effect of prayer on terminal hospital patients. Needless to say it had no effect.
Actually it did have an effect... but a negative effect , obviously due to psychologial reasons. To paraphrase The God Delusion:
There were 3 groups

1. Patients not prayed for.

2. Patients prayed for but not told they were being prayed for.

3. Patients prayed for and told they were being prayed for.

The patients who weren't prayed for were as equally effected as the patients who were prayed for but didn't know it. However the patients who were prayed for; who were also told they were being prayed for didn't do so well as the other two groups. Dawkins suggested something like that it could be because group 3 must have thought something like "For them to need to pray for me...I must be really ill. I must be doing really badly". Which created despair which for psychological reasons is of course bad for health.
Reply
#32
RE: The inefficacy of prayer
Reply
#33
RE: The inefficacy of prayer
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence - Carl Sagan

Mankind's intelligence walks hand in hand with it's stupidity.

Being an atheist says nothing about your overall intelligence, it just means you don't believe in god. Atheists can be as bright as any scientist and as stupid as any creationist.

You never really know just how stupid someone is, until you've argued with them.
Reply



Possibly Related Threads…
Thread Author Replies Views Last Post
  On the lunacy of prayer slartibartfast 100 24691 October 12, 2021 at 12:17 am
Last Post: slartibartfast
  Global Prayer To End Atheism Kitan Etos 60 20123 August 25, 2021 at 8:20 am
Last Post: Jackie
  A prayer to God ... ignoramus 10 2983 May 3, 2019 at 11:17 am
Last Post: The Grand Nudger
  Question about prayer. purplepurpose 27 11532 October 4, 2018 at 2:06 pm
Last Post: Drich
  What do you think prayer is? vulcanlogician 44 13791 February 2, 2018 at 4:12 pm
Last Post: emjay
  Can prayer change God's perfect plan? MellisaClarke 217 114914 May 23, 2017 at 8:33 am
Last Post: SteveII
  Prayer Athena777 181 50889 December 13, 2016 at 12:38 pm
Last Post: Asmodee
  is collective prayer any more effective? ReptilianPeon 65 21715 June 14, 2016 at 7:49 pm
Last Post: IATIA
  imprisonment, rioting, killing - over PRAYER drfuzzy 15 6737 October 31, 2015 at 3:56 pm
Last Post: Angrboda
  My thoughts on prayer dyresand 25 10429 October 14, 2015 at 7:06 pm
Last Post: Angrboda



Users browsing this thread: 3 Guest(s)