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Virtual monkeys write Shakespeare
September 26, 2011 at 1:49 pm
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-15060310
Quote:A few million virtual monkeys are close to re-creating the complete works of Shakespeare by randomly mashing keys on virtual typewriters.
I didnt think this would actually happen.
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RE: Virtual monkeys write Shakespeare
September 26, 2011 at 2:32 pm
Theist:
"All things are possible with God."
Atheist:
"All things are possible with typing monkeys."
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RE: Virtual monkeys write Shakespeare
September 26, 2011 at 2:33 pm
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One of these things is not like the other.
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RE: Virtual monkeys write Shakespeare
September 26, 2011 at 2:34 pm
Of course.
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RE: Virtual monkeys write Shakespeare
September 26, 2011 at 3:18 pm
(September 26, 2011 at 1:49 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-15060310
Quote:A few million virtual monkeys are close to re-creating the complete works of Shakespeare by randomly mashing keys on virtual typewriters.
I didnt think this would actually happen.
Thats the world for you....full of surprises.
I think I remember an older project that happened years ago which I think only manages to get to 24 letters from Henry IV, Part 2. Here's an Internet Archive cache of that site. It took 2.73785 duodecillion (that's one followed by 39 zeros) "monkey-years", or in human time, about a year and a half.
"RUMOUR. Open your ears;" is the farthest anyone'd gotten.
Another attempt of note at the complete works of shakespeare can be found here.
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RE: Virtual monkeys write Shakespeare
September 26, 2011 at 4:13 pm
Perhaps we should give some weight to the notion that the cosmos is trying to improve literary efficiency by way of the human machine. It's probably starved for reading material after all this time.
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RE: Virtual monkeys write Shakespeare
September 29, 2011 at 4:20 am
I'd always assumed that the 'typing monkey' scenario, involved a monkey who given enough time, would type the whole works in one go, not have lots of other monkies typing and then all their work being scrutinized by an outside intelligence??
I looked up 'typing monkies' to try to find where it is used when defending creation (I couldn't remember how it is used). I found this article, which I'm sure is not a fair reflection on evolution, but I'm only citing it for the mathematical claims. I'm terrible at maths, so hopefully one of you guys or gals can check the maths and let me know if this article has a point? It's not very long and it's called:
'Those typing monkies don't prove evolution'
http://www.unmaskingevolution.com/20-typing.htm
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RE: Virtual monkeys write Shakespeare
September 29, 2011 at 10:00 am
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Of course they don't. It's the fossil record, genetic sequencing, and biology in general that supports evolution by natural selection. If typing monkeys were the proof, we'd have reason to reassess our understanding.
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RE: Virtual monkeys write Shakespeare
September 29, 2011 at 4:40 pm
(September 29, 2011 at 10:00 am)Rhythm Wrote: Of course they don't. It's the fossil record, genetic sequencing, and biology in general that supports evolution by natural selection. If typing monkeys were the proof, we'd have reason to reassess our understanding.
Yes, but I think this example of 'probability' is more to do with the probability of life occurring in the first place.
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RE: Virtual monkeys write Shakespeare
September 29, 2011 at 4:51 pm
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Ah, monkeys of probability. Yeah, determining the probability for something like that is a sticky issue, because we have a lot of questions about the environmental circumstances at the time, even the exact time itself. There are some great examples of how patterns can form and sustain themselves from a very very simple set of rules (see; conways game of life), but these sorts of things aren't really the purvey of evolution itself. More abiogenesis (as you've said, of course).
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