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RE: Occupy Wall Street
October 13, 2011 at 7:35 am
(October 13, 2011 at 7:34 am)searchingforanswers Wrote: (October 13, 2011 at 7:30 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote: (October 13, 2011 at 7:24 am)searchingforanswers Wrote: What would you guys say to someone who insists that this is not the governments problem and that private sectors should handle it? My friend say's dont put in the hands of the government, which makes sense.
The government in Australia does have a modicum of control over "Private Enterprise" and so YES the govt policies of the day CAN have "control" over this issue
how has that worked out for them?
Unionism has fucked it all up 
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RE: Occupy Wall Street
October 13, 2011 at 7:40 am
ahha sounds about right.
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RE: Occupy Wall Street
October 13, 2011 at 7:42 am
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Frustrating as the "Unions" have 'Work-safe'd' or priced our workforce out of jobs.
And don't talk to me about "Profits" being the "New Evil"of corporations. Mankind has NEVER done ANYTHING if there was NOT a Profit for him/Her in it.
Spare me the sanctimonious bullshit. 
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RE: Occupy Wall Street
October 13, 2011 at 7:51 am
(October 13, 2011 at 7:42 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote: Frustrating as the "Unions" have 'Work-safe'd' or priced our workforce out of jobs.
And don't talk to me about "Profits" being the "New Evil"of corporations. Mankind has NEVER done ANYTHING if there was NOT a Profit for him/Her in it.
Spare me the sanctimonious bullshit.
you live in australia?
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RE: Occupy Wall Street
October 13, 2011 at 7:52 am
(October 13, 2011 at 7:24 am)searchingforanswers Wrote: this is not the governments problem
When welfare makes up 35% of the U.S.A.'s total wages, 10% of the population is on unemployment & 14% of the population is on food stamps, it's very much the government's problem.
Corporations MADE THIS MESS. Why would they want to fix it?
Sounds like your friends are either young & dumb, drinking the neocon-ade or both.
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RE: Occupy Wall Street
October 13, 2011 at 7:54 am
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(October 13, 2011 at 7:51 am)searchingforanswers Wrote: (October 13, 2011 at 7:42 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote: Frustrating as the "Unions" have 'Work-safe'd' or priced our workforce out of jobs.
And don't talk to me about "Profits" being the "New Evil"of corporations. Mankind has NEVER done ANYTHING if there was NOT a Profit for him/Her in it.
Spare me the sanctimonious bullshit.
you live in australia?
Yes...along with padraic and Tristo...a few others on this forum too. It is why i don't get into the American or UK Political systems and critique as I am not up on just what it is like over there.
Why??
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RE: Occupy Wall Street
October 13, 2011 at 8:16 am
(October 13, 2011 at 7:42 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote: Frustrating as the "Unions" have 'Work-safe'd' or priced our workforce out of jobs.
And don't talk to me about "Profits" being the "New Evil"of corporations. Mankind has NEVER done ANYTHING if there was NOT a Profit for him/Her in it.
Spare me the sanctimonious bullshit.
Strange...Many of the founding fathers of science did many things which had no immediate profit. Mathematicians who discovered formulas and equations for which they had no idea what to use them for at the time, but are now used widely by computers hundreds of years after their deaths. I know that I have, on many occasions, done work for free, and gave people money for free, with no strings attached. Many people on this planet have done such things, such as habitat for humanity, where people come together and build houses for poor people for free. I currently run my labor unions credit union completely wage free. I dont make a single penny, yet I do the same work of any other chairman on a banking board. Many religious organizations of different types and beliefs have done many things fors people for absolutely free, especially the budhists.
...and that is just right off the top of my head. So you were saying "Mankind has NEVER done ANYTHING if there was NOT a Profit for him/Her in it"?!?!
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RE: Occupy Wall Street
October 13, 2011 at 8:35 am
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(October 12, 2011 at 3:39 pm)Tiberius Wrote: Could you explain this a bit more? I'm probably not understanding it right.
Actually, I'm not suggesting any new tax systems but merely a benchmark for determining if the distribution of the burden of running a community is fairly assessed to all groups. Since the top 1% owns 1/3 of the nation's wealth, they should be paying 33% of the nation's tax income to maintain the nation.
(October 12, 2011 at 11:02 pm)Moros Synackaon Wrote: A republican shitwit will tell you that those people were getting "too good a deal" and shouldn't have been buying houses, being unable to afford it...
As if that justifies selling ANYTHING to people who cannot pay for them while conning them into thinking they can.
Here again we see the effect of religious thinking. The Invisible Hand of the Free Market, blessings be upon its name, is perfect. If the system failed, it must be the fault of government interference. It couldn't be the fault of the system, which is perfect. The Devil is always to blame. Looks like some foolish "do gooder" liberals tried to help those scummy poor people again who are too lazy to do anything for themselves.
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RE: Occupy Wall Street
October 13, 2011 at 8:46 am
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(October 13, 2011 at 8:16 am)reverendjeremiah Wrote: (October 13, 2011 at 7:42 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote: Frustrating as the "Unions" have 'Work-safe'd' or priced our workforce out of jobs.
And don't talk to me about "Profits" being the "New Evil"of corporations. Mankind has NEVER done ANYTHING if there was NOT a Profit for him/Her in it.
Spare me the sanctimonious bullshit.
Strange...Many of the founding fathers of science did many things which had no immediate profit. Mathematicians who discovered formulas and equations for which they had no idea what to use them for at the time, but are now used widely by computers hundreds of years after their deaths. I know that I have, on many occasions, done work for free, and gave people money for free, with no strings attached. Many people on this planet have done such things, such as habitat for humanity, where people come together and build houses for poor people for free. I currently run my labor unions credit union completely wage free. I dont make a single penny, yet I do the same work of any other chairman on a banking board. Many religious organizations of different types and beliefs have done many things fors people for absolutely free, especially the budhists.
...and that is just right off the top of my head. So you were saying "Mankind has NEVER done ANYTHING if there was NOT a Profit for him/Her in it"?!?!
Who said the "profit" was only $$$$ ?
Sorry if my statement made you make that assumption
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RE: Occupy Wall Street
October 13, 2011 at 9:13 am
Quote:Who said the "profit" was only $$$$ ?
Sorry if my statement made you make that assumption
then my original post still applies as a legitimate response.
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