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Organic chemistry
#11
RE: Organic chemistry
(October 28, 2011 at 6:03 am)Zen Badger Wrote: So what do you think of dihydrogen monoxide?

And it's lethal effects on people.

Dihydrogen monoxide?
Do you mean water?
I've never heard someone who called water dihydrogen monoxide... It just isn't a name that is used anywhere in scientific circles.
Besides, it's not even an organic compound.
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#12
RE: Organic chemistry
(October 28, 2011 at 6:47 am)kılıç_mehmet Wrote:
(October 28, 2011 at 6:03 am)Zen Badger Wrote: So what do you think of dihydrogen monoxide?

And it's lethal effects on people.

Dihydrogen monoxide?
Do you mean water?
I've never heard someone who called water dihydrogen monoxide... It just isn't a name that is used anywhere in scientific circles.
Besides, it's not even an organic compound.

Well, my lad, therein lies a tale....

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It's a bit of a chemistry in-joke if you likeWink
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#13
RE: Organic chemistry
Ok I guess I have a question.Crude Oil is an organic molecule correct?
And if I'm not mistaken, energy is created through the breaking/releasing of chemical bonds.
If crude oil is just H and C how can we not synthetically make it, or other very energy dense molecules. I'm assuming H and C are very abundant elements.
Does it take a massive amount of energy/pressure to create the bonds in the first place? So in the end it would be energy negative?


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#14
RE: Organic chemistry
Artificially synthesizing oil is ridiculously energy expensive if you are doing it de novo.

Most, if not all, modern oil refining if it is not crude is putting materials through extraction processes and conversion processes to convert similar analogous molecules to the desired form.

Part of the interest in biofuels is in using algae or bacteria to synthesize very heavy fats, as converting from a fat to a hydrocarbon chain is quite doable.

However, the chief hurdle in biofuels is not fat production, but figuring out how to efficiently harvest said fats.
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#15
RE: Organic chemistry
(October 28, 2011 at 6:58 am)Zen Badger Wrote:
(October 28, 2011 at 6:47 am)kılıç_mehmet Wrote:
(October 28, 2011 at 6:03 am)Zen Badger Wrote: So what do you think of dihydrogen monoxide?

And it's lethal effects on people.

Dihydrogen monoxide?
Do you mean water?
I've never heard someone who called water dihydrogen monoxide... It just isn't a name that is used anywhere in scientific circles.
Besides, it's not even an organic compound.

Well, my lad, therein lies a tale....

http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rct=j&...ga6UdexMNQ

http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rct=j&...uG9E6wGOPw

http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rct=j&...QX36d6r0-A

It's a bit of a chemistry in-joke if you likeWink

Holy crap.
This is just so damn unbelievable.
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#16
RE: Organic chemistry
Like I said, we're all doctors and scientists and lawyers over here, smart people around the board Mehmet..lol.
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#17
RE: Organic chemistry
(October 29, 2011 at 11:09 am)Rhythm Wrote: Like I said, we're all doctors and scientists and lawyers over here, smart people around the board Mehmet..lol.

Well, I don't think that this is due to their smartness, it's due to their ignorance. Because I just googled it myself a bit, and saw that people who were environmental activists who signed a petition to ban it.
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#18
RE: Organic chemistry
I just finished my organic chem lab this very Friday. We made ASA and extracted caffeine from tea and did some experiments with organic solvents. I really had a great time and it was a lot easier than our non-organic lab. But I know really little about organic chemistry, I sure hope that during the course of my studies I'll gain more knowledge.
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#19
RE: Organic chemistry
(October 29, 2011 at 11:40 am)Kayenneh Wrote: I just finished my organic chem lab this very Friday. We made ASA and extracted caffeine from tea and did some experiments with organic solvents. I really had a great time and it was a lot easier than our non-organic lab. But I know really little about organic chemistry, I sure hope that during the course of my studies I'll gain more knowledge.

You did that too?
It's really a pain to get the organic phase and put more solvent in it and do the same thing over and over again...

But unless you try to take a look at the reactions that occur within the organic and inorganic phases and how these get apart from eachother and all...Labs contribute not much to your understanding of organic chemistry.
You just need to pick a compound, and tell yourself, I want to synthetize this compound from this one(within reasonable limits, of course).
And you just look at the options that you have, and try to do so.
This is how you learn organic chemistry.
But labs, yeah, they are helpful, too.
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RE: Organic chemistry
(October 29, 2011 at 11:48 am)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: It's really a pain to get the organic phase and put more solvent in it and do the same thing over and over again...

You can say that again! Our tea concoction became quite messy, but it was fun, nevertheless Smile

Quote:Labs contribute not much to your understanding of organic chemistry.

I beg to differ, I'm the kind of person who learns when I get to do stuff. It takes much more time for me to understand things in a classroom, when it's explained by a professor, than if I get to experiment myself. This was a short lab, only a week, but I now can better appreciate how chemistry is used in the industry and how the chemicals actually work. But you're right in the sense that I still have to learn the theory in the classroom, in order to fully understand what's going on, on a molecular level. But seeing it happen in a lab makes me actually remember it. Smile

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