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Life is awesome - argumentum ad populum
#31
RE: Life is awesome - argumentum ad populum
God, I'd hate living next door to you. Some of that may be true, but your depressed and negative mind only creates a negative outlook of them.
I'm pretty sure when I found out that there is no afterlife or God, I didn't immediately head for the noose. And evolution is suicide because it is pointless? Again it depends how you look at the pointlessness of it. It can be bleak, but then it can be beautiful. I'm sure you'll cheer up soon.


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#32
RE: Life is awesome - argumentum ad populum
(October 29, 2011 at 9:53 am)JollyForr Wrote: God, I'd hate living next door to you. Some of that may be true, but your depressed and negative mind only creates a negative outlook of them.
I'm pretty sure when I found out that there is no afterlife or God, I didn't immediately head for the noose. And evolution is suicide because it is pointless? Again it depends how you look at the pointlessness of it. It can be bleak, but then it can be beautiful. I'm sure you'll cheer up soon.

Hi,

I think pessimism is the rational perceptive to have.

Throughout the history of this planet, only a small percentage of life has been doing this contemplating the universe thing, and having high-minded conversations about how beautiful life is and how wonderful their experiences have been. But life isn't anything like this, it's a replicating DNA molecule that has been reproducing and consuming itself for approximately 4 billion years.

Does it have a purpose? No, it was just an accident of biology, which perpetuated all these different manifestations of life.

And what are we? We are simply puppets animated by the non-benign chemistry that has been pulling our strings for hundreds of thousands of years.

You think you have a self, a solitary unity self with a fixed identity? Well, sorry to break it to you, but you don't. Your subjective experiences are just the end result of electrochemical activity in your brain.

Our species has become so deluded from reality that we can't even see the only thing which is meaningful - sentience - that which we take for granted. None of this material has any real value, it's all just perceptual, the value is inside ourselves. The conscious welfare of all sentient beings is what matters.

We still create sentient beings that are capable of experiencing pain and suffering for our own edification. We haven't demonstrated any capacity to solve this hate problem, we think we can somehow take control of nature when we are the very part of the problem we seek to solve.

We will not be able to control the technology that we are currently busy designing and experimenting with. We hope that this will lead humanity to inevitable moral progress. It won't.

You can continue to fill your head with daydreaming and nonsensical wishful, hopeful thinking and talk about how beautiful and joyous your DNA ride is, or you can recognise that it isn't a ride at all, just a stupid molecule creating biological experiments.

Ask yourself this question - Which would I prefer?

Meaningless and amoral universe with a cycle of unnecessary pain, suffering and death inflicted on the present generation by the generation preceding it due to insane and deluded animals mistakenly believing that they are bestowing something precious - sentience - that needs to be perpetuated at any costs.

Meaningless and amoral universe with no unecessary pain, suffering and death inflicted on future generations by the present generation.

Pretty tough decision to make isn't it?

Anyway, just my thoughts. We only know what we know with the information, beliefs and priorities we have at any given moment in time. No need to hate, just appreciate what we all have in common.

Thanks.
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#33
RE: Life is awesome - argumentum ad populum
Wow, you're so underground, bro.
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#34
RE: Life is awesome - argumentum ad populum
So why go on with your own life?

I never get that sort of attitude. I think people like Vag just over think things, and tend to miss out on the little moments in life that make it worth living.

They feel this way, yet they keep themselves around to bitch about it, thus making bitching/moaning the summation of their miserable existence.

Smile Smile Smile

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LanCLS_hIo4
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#35
RE: Life is awesome - argumentum ad populum
(November 5, 2011 at 6:07 pm)aleialoura Wrote: So why go on with your own life?

I never get that sort of attitude. I think people like Vag just over think things, and tend to miss out on the little moments in life that make it worth living.

They feel this way, yet they keep themselves around to bitch about it, thus making bitching/moaning the summation of their miserable existence.

You want me to be a deluded, singing and pantomiming ape like the rest?

I'll hit you back up.



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#36
RE: Life is awesome - argumentum ad populum
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcY_SSORdoY
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#37
RE: Life is awesome - argumentum ad populum
(November 5, 2011 at 6:22 pm)Vaginasaur Wrote: You want me to be a deluded, singing and pantomiming ape like the rest?

There's nothing deluded about enjoying existence.
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#38
RE: Life is awesome - argumentum ad populum
(November 5, 2011 at 6:27 pm)Napoleon Wrote: There's nothing deluded about enjoying existence.

You can enjoy existence, but you also have to recognise three psychological mechanisms which give you your optimistic outlook, the Pollyanna Principle, the phenomenon which might be called adaptation, accommodation or habituation, and the implicit comparison with the well-being of others.

Being pessimistic does not detract from the so-called joys of life.
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#39
RE: Life is awesome - argumentum ad populum
At first ole Vaggie here made me think of David Mabus, what with the mode of presentation and whatnot. Then I realized that no matter what I'll never be as cool as her because I cannot affect nearly so much disdain. I'm working on it, though. I smoke a pack a day and drink my coffee black.

I'm still trying to master wearing mascara and still feeling masculine. I mean, that's scary.

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#40
RE: Life is awesome - argumentum ad populum
(November 5, 2011 at 5:46 pm)Vaginasaur Wrote: I think pessimism is the rational perceptive to have.

And I think you're wrong Big Grin

Buzz Lightyear Wrote:You are a sad, strange little man[/woman], and you have my pity. Farewell.
When I was young, there was a god with infinite power protecting me. Is there anyone else who felt that way? And was sure about it? but the first time I fell in love, I was thrown down - or maybe I broke free - and I bade farewell to God and became human. Now I don't have God's protection, and I walk on the ground without wings, but I don't regret this hardship. I want to live as a person. -Arina Tanemura

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