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On Pseudoscience, Heresy, and Climate Change
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On Pseudoscience, Heresy, and Climate Change
http://wattsupwiththat.files.wordpress.c...heresy.pdf

From:

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/11/01/th...tt-ridley/ (where the speech was reposted with slides)
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RE: On Pseudoscience, Heresy, and Climate Change
YES!

I like this guy! Heart
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RE: On Pseudoscience, Heresy, and Climate Change
Hmm. Tangent to alternative energy sources? Check. Placing blame of manufacturing on the technology? Check. Climategate allegation? Check. Use of singular anomalies (scientific heresy) as if a significant trend? Check.

For someone who spends time criticizing the science, of which I found most interesting and wish to see answered by climatologists, he liked to include a fair amount of politically related causes and talking points.

Color me skeptical of his entire message, but I do wish to see further analysis of the climate impact statistics greatly.
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RE: On Pseudoscience, Heresy, and Climate Change
(November 14, 2011 at 3:22 pm)thesummerqueen Wrote: http://wattsupwiththat.files.wordpress.c...heresy.pdf

From:

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/11/01/th...tt-ridley/ (where the speech was reposted with slides)

Matt Ridley believes that fossil fuels ended slavery (I guess he isn't aware of all the slavery that still exists in the world - oops). Lincoln must be rolling over in his grave.
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RE: On Pseudoscience, Heresy, and Climate Change
Quote:Vaccination is science; the MMR scare is pseudo-science
Thanks Matt, my sister's adverse reaction to the damn jab can safely be discounted.

The MMR vaccine controversy is still alive and kicking.
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RE: On Pseudoscience, Heresy, and Climate Change
(November 18, 2011 at 4:16 pm)orogenicman Wrote: Matt Ridley believes that fossil fuels ended slavery (I guess he isn't aware of all the slavery that still exists in the world - oops). Lincoln must be rolling over in his grave.

If the book I'm currently reading is to be believed (and I've been marking all over it to look things up) he has something of the right idea at least in the US, but it would be foolish to so intimately equate the two when there's really more like 3 or 4 degrees of separation. Agriculture was forever changed with the introduction of fuel burning machines, and slave labor was no longer needed. But that is neither here nor there, and no, it didn't end slavery elsewhere.

Slavery ended here when it did because it was politically expedient to finally give in to the abolitionist movement.
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RE: On Pseudoscience, Heresy, and Climate Change
Slavery ended here because the South lost the war.

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RE: On Pseudoscience, Heresy, and Climate Change
Same difference when you tot it up, love.
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RE: On Pseudoscience, Heresy, and Climate Change
(November 18, 2011 at 4:26 pm)Welsh cake Wrote:
Quote:Vaccination is science; the MMR scare is pseudo-science
Thanks Matt, my sister's adverse reaction to the damn jab can safely be discounted.

The MMR vaccine controversy is still alive and kicking.

Um no the MMR false link to autism has been thoroughly debunked by numerous scientific studies.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4311613.stm

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/articl...77,00.html

http://briandeer.com/mmr/lancet-summary.htm


The pro-link to autism side seem to come up with some dubious science.
Like this.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...utism.html

which says that in an area that with an MMR vaccination program, kids with autism had had the MMR vacine. This is as surprising as saying New yorkers tend to live in the New york area.



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RE: On Pseudoscience, Heresy, and Climate Change
Well, as Min has said, slavery ended in the US because the south lost the war. However, the introduction of fossil fuel based technology (read: farm machinery) and the death of sugar would have had a profound effect on any sort of slavery that existed then or could have continued. Some would argue that immigrant laborers are, at the very best, indentured servants..and that slavery has continued along very predictable lines. Agriculture used to be extremely labor intensive. It is no such thing today. The only niche that would have remained is in tasks that require considerable manual dexterity and experience (picking ripe fruits for example) for which there is still no suitable piece of machinery. This is exactly the niche that migrant field workers fill. Couple dollars a day (that's all the job is worth, honestly), their children can work; and there are no healthcare, housing, or labor laws that effectively protect them from malfeasance. Volunteer for one day at a community farm (make sure they know you want to work and aren't just a tourist). Grab yourself a beer at the end of the day and ponder over the fact that the beer you're drinking represents the total proceeds from 14 hours worth of labor in that same field, to a migrant worker.
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