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Atheism and Theism Comparison
#61
RE: Atheism and Theism Comparison
(November 18, 2016 at 9:23 am)LastPoet Wrote: *grabs Mafalda and drools*


Is that the name you give your junk?  Is it a girl's name?  Mine's Mr. Johnson, mister Susie Johnson.
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#62
RE: Atheism and Theism Comparison
(November 18, 2016 at 9:14 am)The Joker Wrote:
(November 18, 2016 at 9:13 am)Whateverist Wrote: You wish.  Disappoint is the word you're looking for.

Are you now stating that you lack being upset?


Are you now asking if my statement that I find you disappointing implies that I am upset?  But not particularly, thanks for asking.
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#63
RE: Atheism and Theism Comparison
It's a shame, I was ironically about to write that I was impressed with this guy that he had been respectful so far, and that this is rare here; that most people just screw us about.

Then he started screwing us about. I suppose that's a lot less work than trying to learn something.
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#64
RE: Atheism and Theism Comparison
(November 17, 2016 at 8:29 pm)The Joker Wrote: However, some atheists have argued for an eternal universe and contradicting the universally accepted and observable 2nd law of thermodynamics which in turn contradicts an eternal universe...

Only if the universe is a closed system.

And shouldn't your allegedly eternal imaginary friend have run out of steam by now? Big Grin
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#65
RE: Atheism and Theism Comparison
(November 17, 2016 at 8:29 pm)The Joker Wrote: If you want to disapprove God’s existence, you would have to a give a natural explanation (Naturalistic Evolution) on how everything came by chance and not designed by an Intelligent mind “God”.

No.

Quote:If you want to prove God’s existence, you would have to prove that things cannot form by chance, in other words you would need to disapprove Naturalistic Evolution, which is the natural explanation of the existence of the universe and all living things.

No.

Quote:·        The Easiest and simplest way to disapprove God’s existence is to Prove Evolution to be True.

No.

Quote:·        The Easiest and simplest way to prove God’s existence is to Prove Evolution to be False.

No.


Quote:Remember disapproving naturalistic evolution that is Biological Evolution and Big bang evolution, Proves God automatically, because it’s either we came here by chance or God created us.

No.

Quote: However, some atheists have argued for an eternal universe and contradicting the universally accepted and observable 2nd law of thermodynamics which in turn contradicts an eternal universe, but in which case we are only left with the Biological evolution and not the Big Bang Evolution.

No.

Quote: The eternal universe argument is not actually a sensible argument according to science. Proving the theory of evolution disapproves intelligent design and proves we came by chance.

No.

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#66
RE: Atheism and Theism Comparison
The universe isn't infinite but it is eternal.
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#67
RE: Atheism and Theism Comparison
(November 17, 2016 at 8:29 pm)The Joker Wrote: Now this post is not to prove which is True Atheism or Theism, but will be a comparison of the two.
If you want to disapprove God’s existence, you would have to a give a natural explanation (Naturalistic Evolution) on how everything came by chance and not designed by an Intelligent mind “God”.

If you want to prove God’s existence, you would have to prove that things cannot form by chance, in other words you would need to disapprove Naturalistic Evolution, which is the natural explanation of the existence of the universe and all living things.

Theistic Evolution- Is stupid, because we know that the Bible contradicts Evolution at all levels.


·        The Easiest and simplest way to disapprove God’s existence is to Prove Evolution to be True.


On the other hand.

·        The Easiest and simplest way to prove God’s existence is to Prove Evolution to be False.


Remember disapproving naturalistic evolution that is Biological Evolution and Big bang evolution, Proves God automatically, because it’s either we came here by chance or God created us. However, some atheists have argued for an eternal universe and contradicting the universally accepted and observable 2nd law of thermodynamics which in turn contradicts an eternal universe, but in which case we are only left with the Biological evolution and not the Big Bang Evolution. The eternal universe argument is not actually a sensible argument according to science. Proving the theory of evolution disapproves intelligent design and proves we came by chance.
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#68
RE: Atheism and Theism Comparison
Theism is the belief in the existence of a god or gods.

Atheism is the lack of belief in the existence of a god or gods.

What more comparison is needed?
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#69
RE: Atheism and Theism Comparison
In case it wasn't obvious, I don't care that this Joker is talking specifically about my intelligence. He can apply scepticism to it all he likes, it's of no concern or importance. What is important is that it is entirely unrelated to the discussion at hand. And instead of admitting that we've ripped sizeable holes in his arguments, he'd rather totally deflect our attention towards his irrelevant displays. Maybe he thinks he's cleverly showing that scepticism is stupid by using it in a stupid and pointless way. Who knows.

Shame, really. I thought he was on the verge of learning something.
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#70
RE: Atheism and Theism Comparison
(November 18, 2016 at 5:35 am)The Joker Wrote:
(November 17, 2016 at 8:37 pm)ApeNotKillApe Wrote: There are theists who accept evolution and atheists who don't.

Is it intelligent for an atheist to reject naturalistic evolution that everything in the universe came by chance and evolved from matter? 

That's not naturalistic evolution.
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