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RE: Theist ➤ Why ☠ Evolution is not Scientific ✔
November 25, 2016 at 9:06 am
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(November 25, 2016 at 8:45 am)chimp3 Wrote: "Origin of Species" and "Descent of Man" by Charles Darwin
"The Selfish Gene" and "The Extended Phenotype" by Dawkins
"The Making of the Fittest" by Sean Carroll
This is not a tit for tat! The books you have read seem to have made you less intelligent. If you are interested in learning about evolution this list is a good start.
I give you two categories: Free and non free. Both are the same quality.
"Evolution Exposed: Earth Science" by Roger Patterson
"Evolution Exposed: Biology" by Roger Patterson
"The Lie: Evolution/Millions of Years" by Ken Ham
"Taking Back Astronomy" by Jason Lisle
"Universe by Design" by Dr. Danny Faulkner
Get above free ebooks or buy book click on the link.
The books you have read seem to have made you less intelligent. If you are interested in learning about evolution and creationism this list is a good start.
Charles Darwins "The Origin of Species" debunked, Here and Here and Here.
Charles Darwins "Descent of Man" debunked, Here and Here and Here.
Dawkins "The selfish Gene" debunked, Here and Here.
Sean Carroll "The Making of the Fittest" debunked, Here and Here and Here.
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Joker, you're allowed to post(exceptions to 30/30).... as long as it's relevant to the discussion.
(November 24, 2016 at 3:07 pm)The Joker Wrote: (November 23, 2016 at 10:47 am)RozKek Wrote: Joker, you're allowed to post(exceptions to 30/30).... as long as it's relevant to the discussion.
(November 24, 2016 at 12:24 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Actually if you are going to parrot Ken Ham at least have the decency to kill yourself. You are too stupid to live.
Ken Ham is no fool, he is the Speaker, Author, President, CEO, and Founder of Answers in Genesis.
(November 24, 2016 at 6:32 pm)The Joker Wrote: (November 23, 2016 at 10:47 am)RozKek Wrote: Joker, you're allowed to post(exceptions to 30/30).... as long as it's relevant to the discussion.
Well, if you can't watch an hour of those videos, then at least watch 7mins of this video, ex evolutionist professor now creationist.
(November 25, 2016 at 8:54 am)RozKek Wrote: (November 25, 2016 at 8:34 am)The Joker Wrote: No because evolution is a presumption.
The evidence doesn't agree with that statement, but you can be ignorant of it, not my prob, have a nice day.
I am only being a honest christian, have a nice day.
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RE: Theist ➤ Why ☠ Evolution is not Scientific ✔
November 25, 2016 at 10:58 am
(November 25, 2016 at 6:42 am)The Joker Wrote: If you do not have an objective standard of morality by which you can determine what is right or wrong, then how are your moral values not just based on your subjective opinions?
If we can reason out why actions are good or bad then we don't need some cosmic busybody to order us around. If we need God to tell us what is good or bad, then no action can be reasoned out to be good or bad-- it depends entirely on what God says, which means that using your capacity to reason is blasphemy.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
-Stephen Jay Gould
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RE: Theist ➤ Why ☠ Evolution is not Scientific ✔
November 25, 2016 at 11:44 am
(November 25, 2016 at 8:48 am)The Joker Wrote: You believe you evolved from a rock how stupid is that. I laugh more than you laugh.
Well you believe that the ghost of Jesus rises from the grave every easter and rides around on a magic giraffe, biting the necks of unbelievers. Who's got the dumbest beliefs now?
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: Theist ➤ Why ☠ Evolution is not Scientific ✔
November 25, 2016 at 11:55 am
(November 25, 2016 at 6:49 am)The Joker Wrote: (November 25, 2016 at 6:45 am)Tazzycorn Wrote: I have. Edit: link to the original search I did, from whence the first hit downloaded the pdf https://www.google.ie/search?q=Well%2C+i...e&ie=UTF-8
Why is copying wrong?
Copying is ok, but what you're doing is plagiarism. It's regarded as wrong because it's a form of lying and also theft. This has been explained to you so you don't have the right to plead ignorance. It shouldn't really need explaining, in fact, since you're the one with the superior moral code and you're trying to play the honest xtian card, despite propagating the words of liars. We're the evil heathens, yet you're the one engaging in theft and dishonesty, and claiming not to understand why it's wrong.
So there can be no misunderstanding, here is the full position taken by Atheist Forums regarding plagiarism:
Quote:Plagiarism is not allowed. We consider plagiarism to be the act of posting another person's words and trying to pass them off as original, or failing to properly cite their source. Academic integrity is important to many of the members here, and it is only fair to give credit where it is due. When members quote from a source other than themselves, they should use citations, links, and names / references where possible.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: Theist ➤ Why ☠ Evolution is not Scientific ✔
November 25, 2016 at 12:03 pm
"Life didn't evolve from a rock, it was made from dirt. TOTALLY DIFFERENT!"
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
-Stephen Jay Gould
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RE: Theist ➤ Why ☠ Evolution is not Scientific ✔
November 25, 2016 at 12:16 pm
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(November 25, 2016 at 11:55 am)Stimbo Wrote: (November 25, 2016 at 6:49 am)The Joker Wrote: Why is copying wrong?
Copying is ok, but what you're doing is plagiarism. It's regarded as wrong because it's a form of lying and also theft. This has been explained to you so you don't have the right to plead ignorance. It shouldn't really need explaining, in fact, since you're the one with the superior moral code and you're trying to play the honest xtian card, despite propagating the words of liars. We're the evil heathens, yet you're the one engaging in theft and dishonesty, and claiming not to understand why it's wrong.
So there can be no misunderstanding, here is the full position taken by Atheist Forums regarding plagiarism:
Quote:Plagiarism is not allowed. We consider plagiarism to be the act of posting another person's words and trying to pass them off as original, or failing to properly cite their source. Academic integrity is important to many of the members here, and it is only fair to give credit where it is due. When members quote from a source other than themselves, they should use citations, links, and names / references where possible. You know that Christians can sin too, Jesus can't sin, yes we have the highest moral code but we do fall but we get up. Atheists have no moral basis to justify right and wrong and this you need to understand friend.
The reason why I copied it is because I saw these aren't ONLY Kent Hovinds arguments those arguments belong to all creationists. Its like someone writing the 4 arguments for God, If another theist person copies it, its not plagiarism because they are copying their arguments, same way if I qoute the Bible thats not plagiarism. But above all because for the greater good of your souls, for those arguments can convince a honest minded person and turn them away from atheism.
(November 25, 2016 at 12:03 pm)Tonus Wrote: "Life didn't evolve from a rock, it was made from dirt. TOTALLY DIFFERENT!"
Then it is still stupid.
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RE: Theist ➤ Why ☠ Evolution is not Scientific ✔
November 25, 2016 at 12:20 pm
You are still passing off the work of other people as your own. Paint it up however makes you feel better, but it is still a dishonest action. If you don't feel shame about it, then you are an immoral and bad person. I am so embarrassed for you right now.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: Theist ➤ Why ☠ Evolution is not Scientific ✔
November 25, 2016 at 12:21 pm
Quote:"Evolution Exposed: Earth Science" by Roger Patterson
"Evolution Exposed: Biology" by Roger Patterson
"The Lie: Evolution/Millions of Years" by Ken Ham
"Taking Back Astronomy" by Jason Lisle
"Universe by Design" by Dr. Danny Faulkner
Get above free ebooks or buy book click on the link.
So your book collection is a bunch of self published hacks and apologist frigaloons id almost believe your using he word "quality" sarcastically
Quote:Charles Darwins "The Origin of Species" debunked, Here and Here and Here.
Charles Darwins "Descent of Man" debunked, Here and Here and Here.
Dawkins "The selfish Gene" debunked, Here and Here.
Sean Carroll "The Making of the Fittest" debunked, Here and Here and Here.
Just wow so many outright lies distortions quote mines and the worst of it they do the same ones over and over that can't be an accident and that was only 4 of them . If this is were your getting your understanding of evolution no wonder your so lost. How about you actually read the books yourself rather then reading the distortions of a bunch of agenda driven apologist and half baked propaganda.
As for the video from ham head it doesn't matter how many times you pimp his crap hes still has no clue about earth science and biology. And as for professor clueless i already addressed this it's just more proof that science must be about methods not men.
Lastly your statement that evolution says we evolved from rocks is the single greatest evidence you have no clue what your talking about. And is the greatest proof of the failure of your heroes seriously get an education and stop getting your science from loons .
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RE: Theist ➤ Why ☠ Evolution is not Scientific ✔
November 25, 2016 at 12:22 pm
If I took a video by someone else and made you believe it was my work, would that be right?
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: Theist ➤ Why ☠ Evolution is not Scientific ✔
November 25, 2016 at 12:29 pm
I love how all the "debunked" books are by Darwin. Where are the biology books from 2010 debunked? Does he think no one has learned anything about biology and evolution since the mid-1800s?
It's like... "Newton's Physics Debunked!". Yah, screw all the physics we learned in the 200 years since, I'm just gonna focus on that one guy who started it all but didn't know as much about it as we do now.
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