I was not calling you a loser just in general stoners. There is a difference. You used the "F" word and I might add loser is not as bad as that, IMO
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Legal pot smokers riot in Seattle, dozens killed.
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Here's the problem I have with your way of thinking, Manowar.
I don't actually disagree with you that health care costs would go down if we addressed issues of better personal habits among our populace. That's a no-brainer. Even you could get that far. The problem I have is your insistence on linking this issue to health care. I doubt there is a person in the world who hasn't made bad choices that, under the path you propose, wouldn't exclude them from health care coverage or would increase their costs such as to effectively exclude them from coverage. Sliding scale for bad habits? Fuck me, where does THAT stop? What about you? You say you smoked weed in your distant youth? Hey, you still smoked. Higher premiums for you. Let's carry your way of thinking further: Did you ever smoke tobacco, even though now you quit? Higher premiums for you -- there's still a higher incidence of lung cancer for former smokers. If not lung cancer, emphysema. Did you ever drink, even though you're a tee-totaller these days? Higher premiums for you. Who the fuck knows what you already did to your liver? Did you ever gain weight, even though you lost it again? Higher premiums for you -- there's still a higher incidence of liver problems and/or pancreatic cancer. Oh, and breast cancer if you're a woman. Or maybe you're still fat. If yes, higher premiums for you -- knee surgery is surely in your future, as are treatments for diabetes. But wait -- I know someone whose resting calories in/out are 1,300 per day (she had it tested). That's not much. So... higher premiums for her? Even though she watches every bite she puts in her mouth and works out like a fiend 7 days a week? Oh, and by the way -- who is tasked with policing up these slobs, to make sure they're not eating too much or drinking too much or are still quit smokers? You, I suppose. In providing health care access to a population, you work with what you have. We have a population that definitely could be more health conscious. But denying them access to health care by raising their premiums is a stupid way to address those issues. Give them ready, affordable access to health care first -- and then the doctors have a chance to help them address the underlying issues of why their health is poor in the first place. Get it? Punishing people by increasing their premiums will only accomplish one thing: They won't get health insurance, and when they get sick, the burden remains on all of us. Hey -- just like now!  (December 10, 2013 at 6:48 pm)Manowar Wrote: I was not calling you a loser just in general stoners. There is a difference. Yes, there is. Let's see if you can figure out what it is. I'll give you a hint, in one case, you're directing an invective at a single person, where on the other hand you're directing it at a whole class of persons whom that single person happens to be a member of in your eyes. Put more succinctly, it's the difference between insulting one person vs insulting the same person and a whole lot of others at the same time. That you don't see that as a bad thing is YOUR character flaw, not mine. (December 10, 2013 at 6:48 pm)Manowar Wrote: You used the "F" word and I might add loser is not as bad as that, IMO That's your opinion, and of course you're always right, right?  (December 10, 2013 at 12:59 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Why would anyone take Prozac? This shit seems downright dangerous...but, unlike pot, its manufacturer makes lots of bribes....er, campaign contributions, to politicians. So side effects are death or death like sympthoms?
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 RE: Legal pot smokers riot in Seattle, dozens killed.
December 10, 2013 at 7:16 pm
(This post was last modified: December 10, 2013 at 7:22 pm by Manowar.)
I had to look up "invective" thanks for teaching me a new word. Here I was thinking we could be friends. Wow, you are a smart man with that explantion,CD. I was impressed. I am sorry but i still think don't like stoners, I knew a few in the past, never did like them. Deal with it.
manowar (December 10, 2013 at 7:16 pm)Manowar Wrote: I had to look up "invective" thanks for teaching me a new word. Here I was thinking we could be friends. Wow, you are a smart man with that explantion,CD. I was impressed. I am sorry but i still think don't like stoners, I knew a few in the past, never did like them. Deal with it. And I don't like judgmental self-righteous assholes. Deal with it. P.S. I'll try to use smaller words next time. RE: Legal pot smokers riot in Seattle, dozens killed.
December 10, 2013 at 8:05 pm
(This post was last modified: December 10, 2013 at 8:19 pm by Manowar.)
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Can I ask something without offending. Now first off I think weed is no worse or better then alcohol. I have myreasons for this, however I think itbshould treated like alcohol, legal. But what I do not understand is why do people spend 90% of there waking lives stoned? Outside of chronic pain of course.
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Creeps in this petty pace from day to day, To the last syllable of recorded time; And all our yesterdays have lighted fools The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle! Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player, That struts and frets his hour upon the stage, And then is heard no more. It is a tale Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, Signifying nothing. (December 10, 2013 at 9:27 pm)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: Can I ask something without offending. Now first off I think weed is no worse or better then alcohol. I have myreasons for this, however I think itbshould treated like alcohol, legal. But what I do not understand is why do people spend 90% of there waking lives stoned? Outside of chronic pain of course. Beats me. I sure as hell don't, and wouldn't want to. I do use it anywhere from 2-6 nights a week so that pain doesnt keep me awake. I want to keep working, so I stay sober during the day and use it to manage the pain at night - so I can be productive and support myself. The alternative would be to go on disability, which I would prefer not to do. 
Were they actually killed or were they just lying around at random, trying to get comfortable?
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