Our server costs ~$56 per month to run. Please consider donating or becoming a Patron to help keep the site running. Help us gain new members by following us on Twitter and liking our page on Facebook!
Current time: June 17, 2024, 7:13 pm

Thread Rating:
  • 0 Vote(s) - 0 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
ObamaCare?
#36
RE: ObamaCare?
(October 29, 2015 at 7:17 pm)MentalGiant Wrote:
(October 29, 2015 at 6:46 pm)Rhythm Wrote: For starters, you'd be forcing other people to comply with the death sentence you've given yourself for the crime of poverty.  

DNR's already do that. Patients can also refuse medication and medical procedures that would be 'lifesaving'. So in your ideal world, I would be forced to receive medical care I do not want just to make the doctor rest easier? 

I would imagine many poor people who WANTED health insurance will or have already signed up for obamacare and are receiving the medical care they CHOOSE to have. I am not poor by circumstance though, I am low income by choice. I come from an affluent family, I could suck up to them and leech like my cousins do, but I don't. My husband and I just choose not to lead a materialistic lifestyle, and thus, do not need or want excess amounts of money nor all the bullshit that comes with earning it. My issue is mostly about not wanting to be forced to undergo procedures/treatments/exams I DON'T WANT whilst still having to pay for those I DO WANT.  It's like being told "the government is forcing you to buy the red SUV when you want the blue car. You can still buy the blue car too but you still have to pay for the red SUV AND your neighbor with 57 accidents and 21 DUI's red SUV too since they keep crashing theirs.". It's a matter of principle.

I also do not trust the government one iota not to (at some point) begin requiring certain things (like gynecological exams, mammograms, colonoscopies ect...) to remain insured yet penalize/arrest you for not being insured, therefore forcing you into having these exams and procedures done like it or not. That also opens the door to then require treatment be administered, like it or not, if a problem is uncovered. That removes individual choice over their own body. I don't like the government meddling in this stuff and just want no part. Come up with a better system with less government involvement, and maybe I'll nibble and entertain the notion of becoming insured again. I did have health insurance before it became a governmental mandate to have it and to pay for other people who take shit care of themselves to have it too. Dropped it as soon as uncle Sam stuck his grubby little fingers in the pot.
You are a member of the American herd.  Your health condition is a matter of national security.  The reason why we have Medicare and the ACA  is because we had a manpower shortage during WWII because so many people failed their military physicals.  So almost every President since Truman tried to get a national health care plan to improve the health of Americans.

Johnson got Medicare.  Nixon might have been able to get a national plan for everyone but he had political problems.  Bush got the prescription plan.  Obama got the ACA.  It's up to someone else to improve those plans.  And if you want to die some States now offer doctor assisted suicide.
Reply



Messages In This Thread
ObamaCare? - by Rhondazvous - October 29, 2015 at 1:55 pm
RE: ObamaCare? - by drfuzzy - October 29, 2015 at 2:19 pm
RE: ObamaCare? - by Kitty Galore - October 29, 2015 at 2:27 pm
RE: ObamaCare? - by Kitty Galore - October 29, 2015 at 2:31 pm
RE: ObamaCare? - by Rhondazvous - October 29, 2015 at 5:07 pm
RE: ObamaCare? - by Crossless1 - October 29, 2015 at 5:19 pm
RE: ObamaCare? - by Jackalope - October 29, 2015 at 5:40 pm
RE: ObamaCare? - by MentalGiant - October 29, 2015 at 5:29 pm
RE: ObamaCare? - by The Grand Nudger - October 29, 2015 at 5:34 pm
RE: ObamaCare? - by Jackalope - October 29, 2015 at 5:39 pm
RE: ObamaCare? - by Wyrd of Gawd - October 29, 2015 at 11:42 pm
RE: ObamaCare? - by Jackalope - October 30, 2015 at 12:04 am
RE: ObamaCare? - by Thumpalumpacus - November 6, 2015 at 12:10 am
RE: ObamaCare? - by brewer - October 29, 2015 at 5:41 pm
RE: ObamaCare? - by Ravenshire - October 29, 2015 at 10:27 pm
RE: ObamaCare? - by Wyrd of Gawd - October 29, 2015 at 11:49 pm
RE: ObamaCare? - by The Grand Nudger - October 29, 2015 at 5:45 pm
RE: ObamaCare? - by brewer - October 29, 2015 at 5:55 pm
RE: ObamaCare? - by MentalGiant - October 29, 2015 at 5:48 pm
RE: ObamaCare? - by Jackalope - October 29, 2015 at 5:55 pm
RE: ObamaCare? - by The Grand Nudger - October 29, 2015 at 5:52 pm
RE: ObamaCare? - by MentalGiant - October 29, 2015 at 6:20 pm
RE: ObamaCare? - by Rhondazvous - October 29, 2015 at 8:21 pm
RE: ObamaCare? - by brewer - October 29, 2015 at 8:31 pm
RE: ObamaCare? - by Wyrd of Gawd - October 30, 2015 at 12:08 am
RE: ObamaCare? - by The Grand Nudger - October 29, 2015 at 5:59 pm
RE: ObamaCare? - by Minimalist - October 29, 2015 at 6:23 pm
RE: ObamaCare? - by The Grand Nudger - October 29, 2015 at 6:23 pm
RE: ObamaCare? - by MentalGiant - October 29, 2015 at 6:41 pm
RE: ObamaCare? - by Minimalist - October 29, 2015 at 6:27 pm
RE: ObamaCare? - by The Grand Nudger - October 29, 2015 at 6:46 pm
RE: ObamaCare? - by MentalGiant - October 29, 2015 at 7:17 pm
RE: ObamaCare? - by Wyrd of Gawd - October 30, 2015 at 12:02 am
RE: ObamaCare? - by The Grand Nudger - October 29, 2015 at 7:18 pm
RE: ObamaCare? - by MentalGiant - October 29, 2015 at 7:30 pm
RE: ObamaCare? - by brewer - October 29, 2015 at 7:37 pm
RE: ObamaCare? - by The Grand Nudger - October 29, 2015 at 8:14 pm
RE: ObamaCare? - by The Grand Nudger - October 29, 2015 at 8:34 pm
RE: ObamaCare? - by Wyrd of Gawd - October 29, 2015 at 11:37 pm
RE: ObamaCare? - by brewer - November 2, 2015 at 5:18 pm
RE: ObamaCare? - by brewer - November 5, 2015 at 7:58 pm
RE: ObamaCare? - by Tiberius - November 5, 2015 at 8:39 pm
RE: ObamaCare? - by Jackalope - November 5, 2015 at 11:52 pm
RE: ObamaCare? - by Minimalist - November 6, 2015 at 1:10 am
RE: ObamaCare? - by Rhondazvous - November 6, 2015 at 12:36 pm
RE: ObamaCare? - by Minimalist - November 6, 2015 at 7:29 pm
RE: ObamaCare? - by dyresand - November 5, 2015 at 9:11 pm
RE: ObamaCare? - by Aroura - November 5, 2015 at 9:32 pm
RE: ObamaCare? - by Reforged - November 6, 2015 at 12:17 am
RE: ObamaCare? - by Thumpalumpacus - November 6, 2015 at 12:54 am
RE: ObamaCare? - by Reforged - November 6, 2015 at 1:11 am
RE: ObamaCare? - by Thumpalumpacus - November 6, 2015 at 12:09 pm
RE: ObamaCare? - by Tiberius - November 6, 2015 at 12:41 am
RE: ObamaCare? - by Minimalist - November 6, 2015 at 12:43 pm
RE: ObamaCare? - by Tiberius - November 26, 2015 at 12:37 pm
RE: ObamaCare? - by brewer - November 26, 2015 at 10:37 am
RE: ObamaCare? - by Whateverist - November 26, 2015 at 12:21 pm
RE: ObamaCare? - by Minimalist - November 26, 2015 at 2:07 pm
RE: ObamaCare? - by brewer - November 28, 2015 at 11:02 pm
RE: ObamaCare? - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - November 28, 2015 at 11:18 pm
RE: ObamaCare? - by Thumpalumpacus - November 28, 2015 at 11:45 pm

Possibly Related Threads...
Thread Author Replies Views Last Post
  Behind closed doors, Republican lawmakers fret about how to repeal Obamacare Minimalist 15 1803 February 1, 2017 at 4:01 pm
Last Post: vorlon13
  Ted Cruz goes on Obamacare Creed of Heresy 13 2441 March 25, 2015 at 4:31 pm
Last Post: Faith No More
  Obamacare written to deceive the public. Heywood 208 24979 December 2, 2014 at 2:33 pm
Last Post: Surgenator
  Obamacare not affordable Manowar 75 17038 December 8, 2013 at 10:13 am
Last Post: Zazzy
  Obamacare part 2 Manowar 105 24563 October 5, 2013 at 5:34 pm
Last Post: AtheistCreed
  Unions Demand Repeal Of Obamacare A Theist 48 13029 July 18, 2013 at 3:04 am
Last Post: Foxaèr
  Mitt Romney Booed At NAACP Convention For Saying He'd Repeal Obamacare cratehorus 3 2263 July 12, 2012 at 10:23 am
Last Post: Taqiyya Mockingbird
  How Pot Could Save Obamacare thesummerqueen 3 1490 November 16, 2011 at 1:27 pm
Last Post: Erinome
  Many that pushed for ObamaCare now getting waivers Mishka 21 6216 December 9, 2010 at 4:27 pm
Last Post: Jaysyn



Users browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)