RE: Scientific knowledge versus spiritual knowledge
January 7, 2016 at 6:37 pm
(This post was last modified: January 7, 2016 at 6:41 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(January 7, 2016 at 6:19 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: So let's modify the argument so it's more clear.Clarity, awesome. Go!
Assume where it the case an eternal creator was possible (metaphysically possible).
Quote:If that assumed eternal creator can create goodness out of nothing, it can decide it's good to torture a being for ever with intense torture for no crime on it's own in some possible world.Okay.
Quote:It's impossible that assumed eternal creator can make goodness such that it's good to torture a being forever with intense torture for no crime on it's own in any possible world.Isn't this statement directly contradictory to the statement above?
Quote:Therefore it's necessarily the case that goodness cannot be created out nothing by any assumed creator in any possible world.Therefore from what..what rule of inference have you used, and what have you inferred this from?
Quote:Goodness exists and it's part of our reality/selves.Thanks for the testimonial, many would agree...but I fail to see the relevance.
Quote:If assumed creator cannot create goodness out of nothing, then neither can evolution, as it can create evolution.Sort of like...if I can't paint...then neither can Picasso? IDK buddy.....
Quote:Goodness therefore is eternal (not created)Therefore from what, what rule of inference have you used, and what have you inferred this from?
Quote:Goodness only is possible if perceived.
Sort of like it's impossible for a light to be on in a room I can't see into? IDK buddy....
Quote:Therefore an eternal perception of goodness existed.
.......Therefore from what.............
What argument Mystic......honestly? Are you sure you understand what needs to happen for you to be able to claim that you are presenting an argument?
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