(January 8, 2016 at 9:50 pm)God of Mr. Hanky Wrote:I read the first paragraph. Maybe you're confused or something but the ancient Roman Catholic Church is responsible for all other sects and even partially responsible for Islam. Regardless of numerous attempts at varied times and levels, the Roman Catholic Church still managed to skew and lead most astray from true direction and faith in God.(January 8, 2016 at 9:09 pm)popsthebuilder Wrote: Please understand that the misdirection and atrocities that resulted were because of manipulation by the ancient Roman Catholic church, and even before.
All things happen for a reason. I think those things in history are to be lessons, similar to what you are saying. The lesson isn't to abolish the freedom to practice religion freely, but that man is not God, and that hierarchy is flawed. Utter equality, equal value per human life, and a high general respect for all life is important.
Faith in selfless Unity for Good.
That is very wrong, Pops, and very irresponsible of you to point to another and go "only dey wudda dun dat!"
I'm not denying that the atrocities began with the Catholic church, but that church took the world first, it was that one which first grew too big for the rest of the world, therefore it's a pointless argument. Protestants were hardly blameless in their conflicts against "the papists", and they were no less bloody. It wasn't really that long ago that Puritans were slaughtering their own for "witchcraft". So don't think you can blame the problem of religious power on a different sect, because sectarian differences per se have nothing to do with the tendency toward the violence which happens. As it has happened so many times before, so it will again whenever and wherever any sect or ideological group becomes powerful enough that it can get away with eliminating the people who its people don't like. It doesn't matter what a group believes, they will invariably lose empathy for those who get in their way when they become for long enough accustomed to the privilege of their majority status. Their spiritual leaders will pander to their hatred where and when it will sell, giving them the "moral" solutions which they want. With moral vindication on their side, they will trample all over their scapegoats, they may even torture and butcher some again, and if they fail to crush them completely then they will rally from their ashes, gain followers and power, and finally commit similar horrors in retaliation.
The common denominator, whenever such a cycle of events has, does, and will occur is always large groups of people who allow others to manipulate their emotions and their decision-making processes, and this is invariably what goes on in church groups. Now I know you have expressed some disdain for organizations, but if you aren't meeting in groups as either a follower or an agitator, then you are probably in the precarious position of kow-towing to your own ego (which you would mistake as another person or god).
Faith in selfless Unity for Good.