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Atheists= intelligent?
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RE: Atheists= intelligent?
(October 31, 2008 at 2:14 pm)EvidenceVsFaith Wrote:
(October 31, 2008 at 1:44 pm)S_Truth Wrote: Even stalin, I just did some research and he even killed people while robbing. So how can he be seen as good or bad, he was also ruthless person. In his mind it was good but others might see it as bad, but really does it matter if its one or the other if the end result is death and can you please answer the question, why are we born?
Yes, perhaps if he genuinely thought he was totally rightous and was totally ignorant of it with a kind of blind anti-faith faith of leninist marxist, then perhaps you could concieve that this was just pure ignorance. Why are we born? Because our parents chose to have sex and they conceived of us whether intentional or not, planned or unplanned. If you mean why does life exist in the first place? There is almost certainly no reason behind it and this should be more of a 'How?' question rather than a 'Why?' question. Us humans have just evolved to think there's a purpose to anything, when there isn't, it is probably true that only conscious beings such as ourselves can have a "purpose" as we define it.

Quote:Well atheist is a blind belief system because you do good for no reason. The end result is death for everyone and atheist believe doing good for no reason. To say I do good for another is just pointless because even that person dies at the end and his doing good is pointless as your own.
Atheist is a blind belief system?? Its the opposite. Atheists do good for no reason? What do you mean? You do what you think is right rather than just blindly following a load of superstitious nonsense. So thats the opposite of a blind belief system. Its the opposite of faith.
What the hell? Seriously, to do good for another person is poitnless because they're going to die anyway and so also their good was pointless because that person was going to die anyway?! I've already explained that of course doing good isn't an objective thing and its NOT all about waiting in a queue for the afterlife, whether inacitve or active during the queue, good morals is not about posponing your life for something that almost certainly doesn't exist! Its the opposite, its about caring about the living and dying! not the dead!

Ultimately why are we born if we die at the end. There is no point of being born then. Throughout our lives we have set goals first learn this then that then go on to be this and so on, but what is the ultimate goal of life? If its just to die then all the stuff inbetween do not matter and have no meaning, So really an atheist life has no mean to it. And what atheist try to live off is meaning and facts but the ultimate fact they do not have and one comes to say for an atheist life is meaningless.

Ultimately atheist is a blind faith because your good is for no reason because at the end you die. This good has no ultimate reason to be practiced. This Good is just following a mind that leads to no where and even our mind is limited so really our faith and reasoning in our mind leads us no where, which is the ultimate faith that our mind tells us we are doing right, but ultimately since our thinking is limited we are not 100% we are right. This uncertainty leaves us vulnerable and leaves an emptiness in the atheist. All of life’s successes were for nothing. To say others benefit from your successes is false because ultimately they end up at the same place as you no matter how successful they are and that is dead and no where.
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Atheists= intelligent? - by Giff - September 20, 2008 at 4:35 am
RE: Atheists= intellegent? - by Darwinian - September 20, 2008 at 6:38 am
RE: Atheists= intellegent? - by Tiberius - September 20, 2008 at 7:04 am
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by Giff - September 21, 2008 at 4:03 am
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by lukec - September 22, 2008 at 1:40 am
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by Edwardo Piet - September 22, 2008 at 7:26 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by Meatball - September 22, 2008 at 10:59 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by Alan - September 25, 2008 at 6:32 am
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by Kyuuketsuki - October 27, 2008 at 6:32 am
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by Edwardo Piet - October 27, 2008 at 7:01 am
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by Kyuuketsuki - October 28, 2008 at 5:37 am
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by Edwardo Piet - October 28, 2008 at 2:55 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by josef rosenkranz - October 24, 2008 at 2:15 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by Edwardo Piet - October 24, 2008 at 4:16 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by Giff - April 12, 2009 at 8:09 am
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by Bungy - October 24, 2008 at 7:22 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by Edwardo Piet - October 24, 2008 at 9:18 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by ManofGOD - October 28, 2008 at 3:21 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by bozo - October 28, 2008 at 4:03 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by Edwardo Piet - October 28, 2008 at 5:10 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by bozo - October 25, 2008 at 6:26 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by Edwardo Piet - October 25, 2008 at 6:42 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by Giff - October 27, 2008 at 8:14 am
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by Edwardo Piet - October 27, 2008 at 8:30 am
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by Edwardo Piet - October 28, 2008 at 3:26 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by leo-rcc - October 29, 2008 at 9:04 am
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by Edwardo Piet - October 29, 2008 at 11:06 am
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by leo-rcc - October 29, 2008 at 12:35 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by Edwardo Piet - October 29, 2008 at 12:40 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by leo-rcc - October 29, 2008 at 12:58 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by Edwardo Piet - October 29, 2008 at 1:07 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by josef rosenkranz - October 30, 2008 at 2:07 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by Edwardo Piet - October 30, 2008 at 6:42 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by Edwardo Piet - October 31, 2008 at 12:15 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by josef rosenkranz - October 31, 2008 at 1:20 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by Edwardo Piet - October 31, 2008 at 1:41 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by S_Truth - October 31, 2008 at 1:44 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by Edwardo Piet - October 31, 2008 at 2:14 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by S_Truth - October 31, 2008 at 2:53 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by Edwardo Piet - October 31, 2008 at 3:11 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by S_Truth - October 31, 2008 at 3:23 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by leo-rcc - October 31, 2008 at 1:51 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by leo-rcc - October 30, 2008 at 3:10 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by S_Truth - October 31, 2008 at 11:50 am
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by Edwardo Piet - October 31, 2008 at 11:55 am
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by S_Truth - October 31, 2008 at 12:01 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by bozo - October 31, 2008 at 4:45 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by leo-rcc - October 31, 2008 at 11:51 am
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by S_Truth - October 31, 2008 at 11:56 am
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by Edwardo Piet - October 31, 2008 at 11:58 am
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by leo-rcc - October 31, 2008 at 12:00 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by S_Truth - October 31, 2008 at 12:08 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by Edwardo Piet - October 31, 2008 at 1:20 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by leo-rcc - October 31, 2008 at 12:02 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by S_Truth - October 31, 2008 at 12:16 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by leo-rcc - October 31, 2008 at 12:25 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by S_Truth - October 31, 2008 at 12:34 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by leo-rcc - October 31, 2008 at 12:40 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by S_Truth - October 31, 2008 at 12:48 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by S_Truth - October 31, 2008 at 12:55 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by leo-rcc - October 31, 2008 at 12:55 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by S_Truth - October 31, 2008 at 12:59 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by leo-rcc - October 31, 2008 at 12:57 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by S_Truth - October 31, 2008 at 1:06 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by leo-rcc - October 31, 2008 at 1:02 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by leo-rcc - October 31, 2008 at 1:13 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by S_Truth - October 31, 2008 at 1:21 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by S_Truth - October 31, 2008 at 2:08 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by Kyuuketsuki - February 25, 2009 at 8:13 am
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by leo-rcc - October 31, 2008 at 3:06 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by S_Truth - October 31, 2008 at 3:11 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by leo-rcc - October 31, 2008 at 3:22 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by leo-rcc - October 31, 2008 at 3:25 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by S_Truth - October 31, 2008 at 3:30 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by leo-rcc - October 31, 2008 at 3:35 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by S_Truth - October 31, 2008 at 4:17 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by leo-rcc - October 31, 2008 at 4:29 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by S_Truth - October 31, 2008 at 4:52 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by bozo - October 31, 2008 at 5:35 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by S_Truth - October 31, 2008 at 4:59 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by leo-rcc - October 31, 2008 at 4:55 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by S_Truth - October 31, 2008 at 4:56 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by leo-rcc - October 31, 2008 at 4:59 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by leo-rcc - October 31, 2008 at 5:01 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by S_Truth - October 31, 2008 at 5:07 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by leo-rcc - October 31, 2008 at 5:19 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by S_Truth - October 31, 2008 at 5:22 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by leo-rcc - October 31, 2008 at 5:35 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by S_Truth - October 31, 2008 at 5:38 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by leo-rcc - October 31, 2008 at 5:43 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by S_Truth - October 31, 2008 at 5:58 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by leo-rcc - October 31, 2008 at 6:03 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by Meatball - October 31, 2008 at 6:05 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by S_Truth - October 31, 2008 at 6:09 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by leo-rcc - October 31, 2008 at 6:13 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by S_Truth - October 31, 2008 at 6:16 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by leo-rcc - October 31, 2008 at 6:18 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by Meatball - October 31, 2008 at 6:18 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by S_Truth - October 31, 2008 at 6:25 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by S_Truth - October 31, 2008 at 6:19 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by leo-rcc - October 31, 2008 at 6:24 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by Meatball - October 31, 2008 at 6:26 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by S_Truth - October 31, 2008 at 6:27 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by bozo - October 31, 2008 at 6:35 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by leo-rcc - October 31, 2008 at 6:31 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by S_Truth - October 31, 2008 at 6:33 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by S_Truth - October 31, 2008 at 6:37 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by bozo - October 31, 2008 at 6:41 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by S_Truth - October 31, 2008 at 6:46 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by bozo - October 31, 2008 at 6:56 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by leo-rcc - October 31, 2008 at 6:43 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by leo-rcc - October 31, 2008 at 6:52 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by S_Truth - October 31, 2008 at 7:04 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by leo-rcc - October 31, 2008 at 7:09 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by S_Truth - October 31, 2008 at 7:13 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by bozo - October 31, 2008 at 7:16 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by S_Truth - October 31, 2008 at 7:22 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by bozo - October 31, 2008 at 7:26 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by S_Truth - October 31, 2008 at 7:39 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by bozo - October 31, 2008 at 7:42 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by Edwardo Piet - October 31, 2008 at 10:35 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by leo-rcc - October 31, 2008 at 7:22 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by S_Truth - October 31, 2008 at 7:25 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by leo-rcc - October 31, 2008 at 7:33 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by S_Truth - October 31, 2008 at 7:45 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by leo-rcc - October 31, 2008 at 7:46 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by bozo - October 31, 2008 at 7:48 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by leo-rcc - October 31, 2008 at 7:49 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by bozo - October 31, 2008 at 7:53 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by leo-rcc - October 31, 2008 at 7:55 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by Meatball - October 31, 2008 at 10:43 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by Giff - February 25, 2009 at 6:30 am
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by Edwardo Piet - February 25, 2009 at 6:59 am
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by Giff - February 27, 2009 at 5:45 am
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by padraic - February 26, 2009 at 9:27 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by Tiberius - February 26, 2009 at 9:35 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by padraic - February 27, 2009 at 12:34 am
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by Overmars - April 9, 2009 at 3:47 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by Giff - April 10, 2009 at 7:23 am
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by Tiberius - April 10, 2009 at 12:07 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by Edwardo Piet - April 10, 2009 at 9:40 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by Edwardo Piet - April 12, 2009 at 12:58 pm
RE: Atheists= intelligent? - by Giff - April 13, 2009 at 7:44 am

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